From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233E81386F3 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 764E1142CE; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D147142B6 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wicja10 with SMTP id ja10so121892633wic.1 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type; bh=jzIB4AS2eF4YiOZg36yWhzNGSVce6XKSnXARvPJRimU=; b=T3u6wqvjf1XcFh9vaYP0wMkkzYTaulrXrLY9GeUbVaDJUaTPXq/W4H/zgrviWGA1JU 38PRCUKOSyKf16JxMwIMn9Wbk4g9TUWcy9aFCaQLbx/AXHcdiAfEy4Bb6NGrEioa2Dqf 9JL1vJlDr4o1wdx4ERSNBSwA3P6OdoAgUrSYIuDGoXrmT8ERP7oHiKFkmCLhOzwBsoxS wBeFJvZnT/qm8SDQcnaPDulETwj4bjY2W4MtQVMm4UCMlL4BAcBAp524KCf6J5S9QUua NKcQurtyDneXarRlnSidcKdYIPmet3T4n4lk68TCGlSQaLGp4mucQJJL8XArjcURUmHB 9SFg== X-Received: by 10.194.179.37 with SMTP id dd5mr31774844wjc.129.1439401225173; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc67371-broo7-2-0-cust693.14-2.cable.virginm.net. [82.28.182.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ul1sm8938333wjc.30.2015.08.12.10.40.23 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:40:16 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies Message-ID: <20150812184016.5afe463b@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <21963.33933.738893.285125@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <55C7AC24.2040503@gentoo.org> <55C9CA32.3060300@gentoo.org> <55C9F189.10102@gentoo.org> <20150812052120.5a83c3b1@googlemail.com> <55CB4CB0.8050208@gentoo.org> <20150812143819.GA25080@linux1> <20150812182304.0452d97d@googlemail.com> <21963.33933.738893.285125@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.26; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/AhmosTM98S1mw=nt0LX9HZ="; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 923b667e-fd48-455d-98e7-78685dbce20e X-Archives-Hash: fd06bd480fee459b82c9e5851a2e06b7 --Sig_/AhmosTM98S1mw=nt0LX9HZ= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:38:21 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > The opposing viewpoint was ferringb believing he could do "automatic > > dependency resolution" for a build server setup, without trying it > > and without an implementation, and that a human-readable pkg_pretend > > would somehow preclude that. >=20 > Hm, how about adding a new PM command like "required_use foo -bar"? > It would be used exclusively in pkg_pretend, and tell the PM to > suggest the necessary package.use changes to the user (or even update > them automatically with the appropriate --autounmask-* option). >=20 > REQUIRED_USE could be banned at the same time. Why add support for a hypothetical package mangler feature that doesn't exist and that isn't necessary in practice? --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/AhmosTM98S1mw=nt0LX9HZ= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlXLhQAACgkQ96zL6DUtXhEIXACgulwEkyA4xodBV34MInjTzt/G 58EAnRbyQlyNFoygludBWPHhSZR/kJWr =pyZp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/AhmosTM98S1mw=nt0LX9HZ=--