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* [gentoo-dev] last rites: obsolete Perl virtuals virtual/perl-CGI virtual/perl-Module-Build virtual/perl-Module-Pluggable
@ 2015-06-14 14:34 Andreas K. Huettel
  2015-06-14 15:19 ` Philip Webb
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andreas K. Huettel @ 2015-06-14 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev-announce; +Cc: gentoo-dev

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# Andreas K. Huettel <dilfridge@gentoo.org> (14 Jun 2015)
# The CGI, Module::Build, and Module::Pluggable modules have been
# removed from the core Perl distribution and as package now reside
# in the dev-perl category. This means the corresponding virtuals
# are not needed anymore and will be removed in 30 days.
# * If you have any of these virtuals installed, uninstall
#   (depclean) them.
# * If the virtuals are required by some overlay package, that is
#   a bug in the overlay; the overlay ebuild should now depend on
#   the new dev-perl ebuild.
virtual/perl-CGI
virtual/perl-Module-Build
virtual/perl-Module-Pluggable

- -- 
Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer (council, perl, libreoffice)
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: obsolete Perl virtuals virtual/perl-CGI virtual/perl-Module-Build virtual/perl-Module-Pluggable
  2015-06-14 14:34 [gentoo-dev] last rites: obsolete Perl virtuals virtual/perl-CGI virtual/perl-Module-Build virtual/perl-Module-Pluggable Andreas K. Huettel
@ 2015-06-14 15:19 ` Philip Webb
  2015-06-14 16:00   ` Andreas K. Huettel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Philip Webb @ 2015-06-14 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

150614 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> # * If you have any of these virtuals installed, uninstall
> #   (depclean) them.
> # * If the virtuals are required by some overlay package, that is
> #   a bug in the overlay; the overlay ebuild should now depend on
> #   the new dev-perl ebuild.
> virtual/perl-Module-Build

root:500 ~> emerge -cpv perl-Module-Build

Calculating dependencies... done!
  virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.420.500-r2 pulled in by:
    dev-perl/Error-0.170.210 requires =virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.420.500-r2, >=virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.390.0
    dev-perl/File-BaseDir-0.30.0-r1 requires virtual/perl-Module-Build, =virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.420.500-r2
    dev-perl/File-DesktopEntry-0.40.0-r1 requires =virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.420.500-r2, virtual/perl-Module-Build
    dev-perl/File-MimeInfo-0.210.0 requires =virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.420.500-r2, virtual/perl-Module-Build
    media-gfx/graphite2-1.2.4-r1 requires =virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.420.500-r2, virtual/perl-Module-Build

root:501 ~> emerge -cpv Error File-BaseDir File-DesktopEntry File-MimeInfo graphite2

Calculating dependencies... done!
  dev-perl/Error-0.170.210 pulled in by:
    dev-vcs/git-2.3.6 requires dev-perl/Error

  dev-perl/File-BaseDir-0.30.0-r1 pulled in by:
    dev-perl/File-DesktopEntry-0.40.0-r1 requires >=dev-perl/File-BaseDir-0.03
    dev-perl/File-MimeInfo-0.210.0 requires >=dev-perl/File-BaseDir-0.03

  dev-perl/File-DesktopEntry-0.40.0-r1 pulled in by:
    dev-perl/File-MimeInfo-0.210.0 requires >=dev-perl/File-DesktopEntry-0.04

  media-gfx/graphite2-1.2.4-r1 pulled in by:
    app-office/libreoffice-4.4.3.2 requires media-gfx/graphite2

  dev-perl/File-MimeInfo-0.210.0 pulled in by:
    x11-misc/xdg-utils-1.1.0_rc2 requires dev-perl/File-MimeInfo

Any further advice ?

-- 
========================,,============================================
SUPPORT     ___________//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT    `-O----------O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca



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* Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: obsolete Perl virtuals virtual/perl-CGI virtual/perl-Module-Build virtual/perl-Module-Pluggable
  2015-06-14 15:19 ` Philip Webb
@ 2015-06-14 16:00   ` Andreas K. Huettel
  2015-06-14 19:53     ` [gentoo-dev] last rites: obsolete virtual/perl-Module-Build Philip Webb
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andreas K. Huettel @ 2015-06-14 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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Am Sonntag, 14. Juni 2015, 17:19:11 schrieb Philip Webb:
> 150614 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> > # * If you have any of these virtuals installed, uninstall
> > #   (depclean) them.
> > # * If the virtuals are required by some overlay package, that is
> > #   a bug in the overlay; the overlay ebuild should now depend on
> > #   the new dev-perl ebuild.
> > virtual/perl-Module-Build
> 
> root:500 ~> emerge -cpv perl-Module-Build
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>   virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.420.500-r2 pulled in by:
>     dev-perl/Error-0.170.210 requires
> =virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.420.500-r2,
> >=virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.390.0 dev-perl/File-BaseDir-0.30.0-r1

(...)

> Any further advice ?

Well, 

* either switch dynamic dependencies back on (you have it off, right?)
* or make a global "emerge --changed-deps ..." run

Cheers, 
Andreas

- -- 
Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer (council, perl, libreoffice)
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: obsolete virtual/perl-Module-Build
  2015-06-14 16:00   ` Andreas K. Huettel
@ 2015-06-14 19:53     ` Philip Webb
  2015-06-14 20:26       ` Andreas K. Huettel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Philip Webb @ 2015-06-14 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

150614 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 14. Juni 2015, 17:19:11 schrieb Philip Webb:
>> 150614 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>>> # * If you have any of these virtuals installed, uninstall
>>> #   (depclean) them.
>>> # * If the virtuals are required by some overlay package, that is
>>> #   a bug in the overlay; the overlay ebuild should now depend on
>>> #   the new dev-perl ebuild.
>>> virtual/perl-Module-Build
>> root:500 ~> emerge -cpv perl-Module-Build
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>   virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.420.500-r2 pulled in by:
>>     dev-perl/Error-0.170.210 requires
>> =virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.420.500-r2,
>> >=virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.390.0 dev-perl/File-BaseDir-0.30.0-r1
> * either switch dynamic dependencies back on (you have it off, right?)
> * or make a global "emerge --changed-deps ..." run

-- output --

root:502 ~> emerge --changed-deps -p world
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/baselayout-2.2 
[ebuild  N     ] games-misc/games-envd-0 
[ebuild  N     ] sys-apps/iproute2-3.19.0  USE="-atm -berkdb -iptables -ipv6 -minimal (-selinux)" 
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/binutils-2.24-r3 
[ebuild   R    ] x11-misc/xearth-1.1-r1 
[ebuild     UD ] app-editors/vim-core-7.4.273 [7.4.622]
[ebuild  N     ] virtual/service-manager-0  USE="(-prefix)" 
[ebuild   R    ] net-mail/fetchmail-6.3.26-r2 
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/modutils-0 
[ebuild     UD ] app-editors/vim-7.4.273 [7.4.622] PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="-python2_7% -python3_3% python3_4%*" 
[ebuild   R    ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.3.0.9-r2 
[ebuild     UD ] app-editors/gvim-7.4.273 [7.4.622] PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="-python2_7% -python3_3% python3_4%*" 
[ebuild   R    ] app-editors/leafpad-0.8.18.1 
[ebuild   R    ] net-dialup/ppp-2.4.7 
[ebuild   R    ] games-puzzle/sgt-puzzles-9861 
[ebuild   R    ] games-misc/gtklife-5.1 
[ebuild   R    ] app-admin/gkrellm-2.3.5-r3 
[ebuild   R    ] app-portage/layman-2.0.0-r3 
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/dev-manager-0 
[ebuild   R    ] sys-fs/udev-216 
[ebuild   R    ] games-board/pasang-emas-3.1.0 
[ebuild   R    ] games-sports/foobillard-3.0a 
[ebuild   R    ] net-print/hplip-3.14.10  USE="-kde*" 
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.10  USE="-debug -kdehiddenvisibility" 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-base/ksokoban-3.5.10 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-misc/krename-4.0.9-r3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/kuiserver-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/filelight-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/kruler-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/kdebase-kioslaves-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/keditbookmarks-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/kwrite-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/kshisen-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-misc/krusader-2.4.0_beta3-r1 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/kwordquiz-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/okular-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/konsole-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3 
[ebuild   R    ] www-client/rekonq-2.4.2-r1  USE="-kde*" 
[blocks B      ] kde-base/libkdegames ("kde-base/libkdegames" is blocking kde-apps/libkdegames-4.14.3)

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.10:3.5/3.5::kde-sunset, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
    >=kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.10:3.5 required by (kde-base/ksokoban-3.5.10:3.5/3.5::kde-sunset, ebuild scheduled for merge)

  (kde-apps/libkdegames-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
    >=kde-apps/libkdegames-4.14.3:4[aqua=] (>=kde-apps/libkdegames-4.14.3:4[-aqua]) required by (kde-apps/kshisen-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

-- end of output --

There's no mention here of Libreoffice, which requires Graphite2,
which requires  virtual/perl-Module-Build ,
as shown in the complete output I pasted into my previous msg.
Therefore, it looks as if my system would still require that virtual,
even after going thro' the lengthy exercise above.

(The KDE block seems odd, as libkdegames-3.5.10 is in Kde-Sunset overlay :
I assume that block isn't relevant to my query re the Perl virtual)

Please remember that users often find emerge output difficult to interpret,
even if it's all perfectly clear to a well-trained dev (smile).

-- 
========================,,============================================
SUPPORT     ___________//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT    `-O----------O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca



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* Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: obsolete virtual/perl-Module-Build
  2015-06-14 19:53     ` [gentoo-dev] last rites: obsolete virtual/perl-Module-Build Philip Webb
@ 2015-06-14 20:26       ` Andreas K. Huettel
  2015-06-14 22:23         ` Philip Webb
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andreas K. Huettel @ 2015-06-14 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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Am Sonntag, 14. Juni 2015, 21:53:35 schrieb Philip Webb:

> > * either switch dynamic dependencies back on (you have it off, right?)
> > * or make a global "emerge --changed-deps ..." run
> 
> -- output --
> 
> root:502 ~> emerge --changed-deps -p world
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> Calculating dependencies... done!
[...]
> [blocks B      ] kde-base/libkdegames ("kde-base/libkdegames" is blocking
> kde-apps/libkdegames-4.14.3)

Not related, and I fear there's not much we can do here. (libkdegames got 
moved to kde-apps everywhere else, (also) preparing the migration towards KF 
5, and I have absolutely no clue how to keep kde-sunset functional with these 
recent main tree changes.)

> There's no mention here of Libreoffice, which requires Graphite2,
> which requires  virtual/perl-Module-Build ,
> as shown in the complete output I pasted into my previous msg.

Well, I guess you don't have to re-emerge libreoffice, but you would have to 
re-emerge graphite2. 

(The only point of the re-emerging here is to update the metadata 
(dependencies) stored in the VDB.)

Maybe this works better if you add a -D to the emerge call? I have no 
experience with --changed-deps, since I've been running dynamic-deps all the 
time. 

Cheers, Andreas

- -- 
Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer (council, perl, libreoffice)
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: obsolete virtual/perl-Module-Build
  2015-06-14 20:26       ` Andreas K. Huettel
@ 2015-06-14 22:23         ` Philip Webb
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Philip Webb @ 2015-06-14 22:23 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

150614 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 14. Juni 2015, 21:53:35 schrieb Philip Webb:
>>> * either switch dynamic dependencies back on (you have it off, right?)
>>> * or make a global "emerge --changed-deps ..." run
>> -- output --
>> root:502 ~> emerge --changed-deps -p world
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [...]
>> [blocks B      ] kde-base/libkdegames ("kde-base/libkdegames" is blocking
>> kde-apps/libkdegames-4.14.3)
> Not related, and I fear there's not much we can do here.
> libkdegames got moved to kde-apps everywhere else,
> also preparing the migration towards KF 5 and I have absolutely no clue
> how to keep kde-sunset functional with these recent main tree changes.

Yes, this is a quite separate issue, wh came up recently in another thread.
3.5.10 continues to work in its old dir :

  root:507 ~> eix libkdegames
    [?] kde-apps/libkdegames
    Available versions:  (4) 4.14.3(4/4.14) {aqua debug openal}
    Installed versions:  3.5.10(3.5)[1]([2012-10-30 21:28:23])(-debug -kdehiddenvisibility ELIBC="-FreeBSD") 4.14.3(4)([2014-12-13 20:50:26])(-aqua -debug -openal)

but there wb a problem, if I tried to re-install it :

  root:509 ~> emerge -pv =kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.10
    These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
    Calculating dependencies... done!
      [ebuild  N     ] kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.10:3.5::kde-sunset  USE="-debug -kdehiddenvisibility" 0 KiB
      [blocks B      ] kde-base/libkdegames ("kde-base/libkdegames" is blocking kde-apps/libkdegames-4.14.3)
    Total: 1 package (1 new), Size of downloads: 0 KiB
    Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)
      * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
      * installed at the same time on the same system.
      (kde-apps/libkdegames-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
      >=kde-apps/libkdegames-4.14.3:4[aqua=] (>=kde-apps/libkdegames-4.14.3:4[-aqua]) required by (kde-apps/kshisen-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo, installed)

      (kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.10:3.5/3.5::kde-sunset, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
      =kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.10
      >=kde-base/libkdegames-3.5.10:3.5 required by (kde-base/ksokoban-3.5.10:3.5/3.5::kde-sunset, installed)

So leave well alone for now & see what cb done when I build a new machine.

>> There's no mention here of Libreoffice, which requires Graphite2,
>> which requires  virtual/perl-Module-Build ,
>> as shown in the complete output I pasted into my previous msg.
> I guess you don't have to re-emerge libreoffice,
> but you would have to re-emerge graphite2.
> (The only point of the re-emerging here is to update
> the metadata (dependencies) stored in the VDB.)
> Maybe this works better if you add a -D to the emerge call ?
> I have no experience with --changed-deps,
> since I've been running dynamic-deps all the time. 

I tried dynamic-deps earlier, but it led to even more confusing output.

I can only repeat my -- & others' -- plea to all the devs
to try to make Emerge output more understandable for ordinary users.

Thanks for your prompt + patient replies (smile).

-- 
========================,,============================================
SUPPORT     ___________//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT    `-O----------O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca



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