[gentoo-dev] newsitem: changes with udev-init-scripts-28

[gentoo-dev] newsitem: changes with udev-init-scripts-28

[William Hubbs]

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Title: udev-init-scripts-28 important changes
Author: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
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Posted: 2015-06-01
Revision: 1
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Display-If-Installed: <=sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-28

udev-init-scripts-28 and newer has two significant changes.

First, there is now a udev-trigger init script which you will need to
add to the sysinit runlevel. You do this by issuing the following
command:

# rc-update add udev-trigger sysinit

The second change is that, from this point forward, the init scripts
will not be automatically added to the sysinit runlevel.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: changes with udev-init-scripts-28

[Alexis Ballier]

On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:43:22 -0500
William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:

> The second change is that, from this point forward, the init scripts
> will not be automatically added to the sysinit runlevel.

what will happen if i make a new install and forget to add udev to my
runlevels ?

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: changes with udev-init-scripts-28

[William Hubbs]

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On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 06:49:36PM +0200, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:43:22 -0500
> William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > The second change is that, from this point forward, the init scripts
> > will not be automatically added to the sysinit runlevel.
> 
> what will happen if i make a new install and forget to add udev to my
> runlevels ?

I thought adding services to runlevels on the livecd and in the stages
was a function of catalyst, so you shouldn't have any issues with this.

Releng, please chime in here, am I wrong about this?

William


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Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: changes with udev-init-scripts-28

[William Hubbs]

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On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:20:58PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 06:49:36PM +0200, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:43:22 -0500
> > William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > The second change is that, from this point forward, the init scripts
> > > will not be automatically added to the sysinit runlevel.
> > 
> > what will happen if i make a new install and forget to add udev to my
> > runlevels ?
> 
> I thought adding services to runlevels on the livecd and in the stages
> was a function of catalyst, so you shouldn't have any issues with this.
> 
> Releng, please chime in here, am I wrong about this?

Ok, I got the information I need from releng.

This will be a function they can handle once they start doing stage 4
builds instead of stage 3. So, I will add it back until then.

William


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Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: changes with udev-init-scripts-28

[Alexis Ballier]

On Fri, 29 May 2015 12:39:28 -0500
William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:20:58PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 06:49:36PM +0200, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > > On Fri, 29 May 2015 11:43:22 -0500
> > > William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The second change is that, from this point forward, the init
> > > > scripts will not be automatically added to the sysinit runlevel.
> > > 
> > > what will happen if i make a new install and forget to add udev
> > > to my runlevels ?
> > 
> > I thought adding services to runlevels on the livecd and in the
> > stages was a function of catalyst, so you shouldn't have any issues
> > with this.
> > 
> > Releng, please chime in here, am I wrong about this?
> 
> Ok, I got the information I need from releng.
> 
> This will be a function they can handle once they start doing stage 4
> builds instead of stage 3. So, I will add it back until then.


Add back what? auto-add of udev to runlevels ? Your 2nd draft doesnt
seem to say so :)


Anyway, when doing so please keep in mind the following scenarios:

- Newcomers that make a new install with the handbook. This information
  about udev init script *needs* to be in the handbook.
- Oldschoolers that make new installs almost from memory, maybe with the
  x86 quick install guide as a memo. They will probably miss anything
  that is not a news item.
- Embedded handbook that advocates usage of crossdev and /usr/$CHOST as
  a SYSROOT, nfs root, or even to copy this to the device's storage.
  Those will not start off a releng-provided stage (though might not
  even use udev either).


Alexis.