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From: Eray Aslan <eras@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 05:19:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150512051934.GA2905@angelfall> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55511563.9040005@gentoo.org>

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 04:47:31PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 05/11/2015 04:08 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > By drop, I will clarify that they should ideally be rejected at SMTP
> > time, not silently dropped.
> 
> I believe those logs show a rejection after the message has been
> accepted initially (if I'm wrong, you can ignore the rest of this).

The analysis is correct.  Pre-queue filtering will help as we can safely
-meaning without causing backscatter- lower the threshold we reject spam
at.  There will still be some spam making its way to gmail but perhaps
it will be low enough to stay under gmail's radar.

The correct solution is to stop forwarding spam and the easiest way is
just stopping forwarding.  There are valid policy reasons for not going
that route but continuing forwarding because it is too difficult to
configure gmail is, well, not something I'd be comfortable with.  I do
expect more from gentoo devs.

In this case (in most cases?), infra should not be looking for consensus
but rather do what is right.

Anyway, I believe infra has all the info it needs at this point and I am
fine with whatever decision they make.

-- 
Eray


  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-12  5:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-11  4:26 [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail Robin H. Johnson
2015-05-11  7:29 ` Eray Aslan
2015-05-11  9:15   ` Tobias Klausmann
2015-05-11 19:31   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-05-11 19:35     ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-05-11 20:01       ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-05-11 20:08     ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-05-11 20:47       ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-05-12  5:19         ` Eray Aslan [this message]
2015-05-12 10:26           ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-12 10:39             ` Peter Stuge
2015-05-12 12:56             ` Niels Dettenbach
2015-05-11  9:38 ` Tony Vroon
2015-05-11 10:09 ` Niels Dettenbach
2015-05-11 20:36   ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-05-12  7:18     ` Niels Dettenbach
2015-05-11 12:39 ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-05-11 12:47   ` Niels Dettenbach
2015-05-11 20:27   ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-05-11 13:27 ` Charles Nérot
2015-05-11 13:37   ` C Bergström
2015-05-11 13:59     ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-11 14:44       ` C Bergström
2015-05-11 14:59         ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-11 15:21           ` C Bergström
2015-05-11 16:17             ` Alexis Ballier
2015-05-11 16:20               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-05-11 16:32                 ` Alexis Ballier
2015-05-11 16:38                 ` Michał Górny
2015-05-11 16:25               ` C Bergström
2015-05-11 16:19             ` Matthew Thode
2015-05-11 16:55             ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-11 17:06               ` C Bergström
2015-05-23  6:18       ` J. Roeleveld
2015-05-23  6:24         ` C Bergström
2015-05-23 11:05           ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-05-23  6:39         ` Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)
2015-05-23  7:54           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2015-05-23  8:01         ` [gentoo-dev] " James Le Cuirot
2015-05-23 11:16         ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-23 12:32           ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-05-23 13:07             ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-23 13:34               ` Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)
2015-05-23 14:20                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-23 14:32                   ` Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)
2015-05-23 15:36                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-23 14:23                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-05-23 14:29                   ` Niels Dettenbach (Syndicat.com)
2015-05-23 16:24                     ` Mike Frysinger
2015-05-11 21:10   ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-05-12  8:37 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] " Mike Frysinger
2015-05-12  8:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Amadeusz Żołnowski

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