From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7014A138CCF for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 09:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01ED4E0848; Mon, 11 May 2015 09:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.schwarzvogel.de (skade.schwarzvogel.de [144.76.18.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9AD1E0837 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 09:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from klausman by mail.schwarzvogel.de with local (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Yrjo1-000L8t-G4 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 11:15:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 11:15:21 +0200 From: Tobias Klausmann To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Anti-spam changes: proposal to drop spammy mail Message-ID: <20150511091521.GA79540@skade.schwarzvogel.de> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20150511072901.GB15066@angelfall> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150511072901.GB15066@angelfall> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: Tobias Klausmann X-Archives-Salt: b2f0e103-57c4-4d1d-be87-376c76d88b65 X-Archives-Hash: eecde6edc65fa986f8a1003fc36666c8 Hi! On Mon, 11 May 2015, Eray Aslan wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 04:26:01AM +0000, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > TL;DR: As of May 17, @gentoo.org will drop incoming spammy mail instead of > > delivering it. Speak now or hold your peace. > > Believe me I understand your pain. Been there done that. However, > dropping mail is never a good idea. You are mucking with the > dependebility of the email. I would never be able to trust my gentoo > mail if you start dropping spammy mails. There will always be false > positives. I suggest: > > - Stop forwarding mail. Have devs pop their mails to whatever account > they like. I believe gmail -biggest complainer?- provides this > option. Big ol' bag of Nope for me. Using POP/IMAP to get mails from Gentoo servers to where I actually handle mail is a pain in the rear end. I already let procmail on woodpecker drop all Mails with a spam score of >=3. I still get shitloads of spam mail that makes it through. Hence, I'm currently training my own SpamAssassin for that bit. That said, I haven't had a false positive from SA in... years? Maybe even a decade. > - If the above option is not OK for whatever reason, at least let us > opt-out of the proposed policy of dropping mails provided we do not > forward our emails. I'd be fine with that. Regards, Tobias -- printk (KERN_INFO "NM256: Congratulations. You're not running Eunice.\n"); linux-2.6.19/sound/oss/nm256_audio.c