From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D355D138A1F for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE8EAE09E1; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:32:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA3EBE09DA for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marga.jer-c2.orkz.net (D4B2706A.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [212.178.112.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jer) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4BDE340169 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:32:37 +0200 From: Jeroen Roovers To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] minimalistic emerge Message-ID: <20140808153237.1f5b9dbb@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> In-Reply-To: <53e4ccbd.c2b4700a.3bec.2414@mx.google.com> References: <53e4ccbd.c2b4700a.3bec.2414@mx.google.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.24; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7fe694af-86f7-4a38-af41-857dfe6f41f6 X-Archives-Hash: f4a3979229cd765237a0517d9d901803 On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 17:12:27 +0400 Igor wrote: > About 60% of all the packages are installed and work with nodep flag > without any problems for years. Most of the maintainers just depend > on new packages not knowing if it's necessary or not resulting in a > really HUGE update that in the absolute majority of cases destabilize > GENTOO making it not operational and WORSE than it was before. You > then STABILIZE it again spending hours and then the story repeats > itself. Nice capitalisation! Speaking of which, where is the US$ 1,000,000 (ONE MILLION UNITED STATES DOLLARS) you promised in your last e-mail? > Experience show that out of 20 new dependencies pulled by > emerge only 1 is critical and really needed to assemble the target. Don't bother to file bug reports if you think a fully up to date system is not for you. > Is there any option in emerge to pull MINIMUM packages to > get the result - install the application you need, leaving everything > else AS IS untouched and stable? RTFM. > Is there any USE flag that can switch system to this kind of update > instead of conventional? No. You're confusing USE flags with package manager features. > If no such USE flag, what about stabilize > gentoo with STABILIZED flag implementation in make.conf? Next time, please bother the gentoo-user@ mailing list. jer