From: Jack Morgan <jmorgan@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] About current ppc/ppc64 status
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:21:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140731002140.GA29496@toyama.bonyari.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53D98379.5020800@gentoo.org>
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 07:44:57PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> On 07/30/14 17:18, Joseph Jezak wrote:
> > On 07/30/2014 06:26 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> >> On 07/29/14 22:16, Jack Morgan wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 04:29:51PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> >>>> On 07/26/14 09:44, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> >>>>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 09:37 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió:
> >>>>>> On 07/26/14 09:28, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> >>>>>>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 14:55 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió:
> >>>>>>>> Am Samstag, 26. Juli 2014, 13:56:02 schrieb Pacho Ramos:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I guess we will need to wait for the next Council to
> >>>>>>>>> officially decide
> >>>>>>>>> to do this as it will be a big change for ppc* users :/ (I
> >>>>>>>>> remember
> >>>>>>>>> their action was needed for the move to testing of some arches
> >>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>>>>> "package-by-package" proposal for others)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Also, I am not sure if any other arch teams (sparc, ia64?)
> >>>>>>>>> would want to
> >>>>>>>>> get this policy too :| (I got ppc* because this concrete case ;))
> >>>>>>>> At first this is an arch team decision. No need for the council.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> (Given that in this case there is a responsive and addressable
> >>>>>>>> arch team...)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Andreas K. Huettel
> >>>>>>>> Gentoo Linux developer
> >>>>>>>> dilfridge@gentoo.org
> >>>>>>>> http://www.akhuettel.de/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The problem is that blueness looks to be the only member currently
> >>>>>>> replying :/, I have checked their page and I see no team lead or
> >>>>>>> similar. Then, I am not sure how to get the ok to proceed or not
> >>>>>>> :| (to
> >>>>>>> prevent this from getting stalled and we keep trying stabilizing
> >>>>>>> all the
> >>>>>>> things).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I remember from older thread (one related with udev
> >>>>>>> stabilization), that
> >>>>>>> blueness was also the only one replying.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yeah, not having a clear lead is a problem. No one wants to just
> >>>>>> make a
> >>>>>> big decision on behalf of the team without making sure everyone
> >>>>>> is on
> >>>>>> board. Pacho, do you have access to timberdoodle? If so, join both
> >>>>>> teams and just take the initiative and let any other "claimants"
> >>>>>> step
> >>>>>> forward now. BTW, taking the lead doesn't mean doing all the work
> >>>>>> yourself. I want to see ppc/ppc64 in good shape. I'll be happy to
> >>>>>> write scripts to do the demoting to ~ etc etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I don't even know about timberdoodle :(
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I forwarded the mail to both alias (as I forgot first time), then,
> >>>>> hopefully they will review it :/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Will CC them again to this just now with this link to allow all to
> >>>>> read
> >>>>> the full thread:
> >>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/92151
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> I think its clear who cares about ppc/ppc64. If there are no
> >>>> objections, I'll take the lead of those teams and see this plan
> >>>> through. I'll wait a few days for people to voice concerns. Then I'll
> >>>> start by generating a list of all stable and testing packages on
> >>>> ppc and
> >>>> ppc64. I'll post then and then continue the conversation on just the
> >>>> ppc and ppc64 lists. Don't worry, I won't start dropping to ~
> >>>> until we
> >>>> have a concise plan and we're all on board.
> >>> I don't think you can/should just take over the leadership of an
> >>> arch.
> >>> Why not have meeting/discussion for team members. Especially since you
> >>> are proposing such a big change.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>
> >> Okay, any members of the ppc team please speak up. I'll wait a week.
> >>
> > I'm still trying to escape from grad school and getting married this
> > fall, so my contributions have been limited at best, which is why I've
> > been shying away from throwing in my two cents. That said, while I'd
> > rather not just remove stable keywords until there's a reason, I have
> > no problem with dropping keywords for stuff that is holding up
> > stabilization bugs if that's what it takes for things to move forward.
> > If you'd like to have a meeting about it, that's fine too.
> >
> > -Joe
> >
>
> Sure, let's meet. I'd like to have jmorgan come too and any other
> ppc/ppc64 members. How does Monday Aug 4 at 20:00 UTC sound to people.
> If not please counter propose a time.
This sounds fine for me. I'll be there. I've been away for a few months
but getting back to helping out. If the current lead isn't active, then
we should have a vote as to who should take over that role. Then discuss
how to proceed with the topics in this thread.
Thanks for organizing this.
Cheers,`
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-25 19:28 [gentoo-dev] About current ppc/ppc64 status Pacho Ramos
2014-07-25 19:38 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-25 19:50 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-25 19:57 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-25 20:07 ` William Hubbs
2014-07-26 8:36 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-26 8:44 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-26 9:09 ` Johannes Huber
2014-07-26 11:57 ` Manuel Rüger
2014-07-26 11:59 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-26 12:16 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-26 10:22 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-26 11:36 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-26 11:47 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-26 11:56 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-26 12:23 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-26 13:25 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-26 12:55 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-26 13:28 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-26 13:37 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-26 13:44 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-26 20:29 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-26 22:01 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-29 14:30 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-30 2:16 ` Jack Morgan
2014-07-30 10:26 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-30 21:18 ` Joseph Jezak
2014-07-30 23:44 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-07-31 0:21 ` Jack Morgan [this message]
2014-07-26 11:44 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-26 12:53 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-26 15:39 ` William Hubbs
2014-07-26 16:20 ` William Hubbs
2014-07-26 16:31 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-26 17:19 ` William Hubbs
2014-07-26 17:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2014-08-01 8:52 ` Raúl Porcel
2014-08-01 9:35 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-08-02 8:59 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-08-01 10:28 ` Duncan
2014-07-26 16:40 ` Michael Palimaka
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