Re: [gentoo-dev] About current ppc/ppc64 status

[Jack Morgan <jmorgan@gentoo.org>]

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On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 04:29:51PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> On 07/26/14 09:44, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 09:37 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió:
> >> On 07/26/14 09:28, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> >>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 14:55 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió:
> >>>> Am Samstag, 26. Juli 2014, 13:56:02 schrieb Pacho Ramos:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I guess we will need to wait for the next Council to officially decide
> >>>>> to do this as it will be a big change for ppc* users :/ (I remember
> >>>>> their action was needed for the move to testing of some arches and the
> >>>>> "package-by-package" proposal for others)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, I am not sure if any other arch teams (sparc, ia64?) would want to
> >>>>> get this policy too :| (I got ppc* because this concrete case ;))
> >>>> At first this is an arch team decision. No need for the council.
> >>>>
> >>>> (Given that in this case there is a responsive and addressable arch team...)
> >>>>
> >>>> -- 
> >>>>
> >>>> Andreas K. Huettel
> >>>> Gentoo Linux developer
> >>>> dilfridge@gentoo.org
> >>>> http://www.akhuettel.de/
> >>>>
> >>> The problem is that blueness looks to be the only member currently
> >>> replying :/, I have checked their page and I see no team lead or
> >>> similar. Then, I am not sure how to get the ok to proceed or not :| (to
> >>> prevent this from getting stalled and we keep trying stabilizing all the
> >>> things).
> >>>
> >>> I remember from older thread (one related with udev stabilization), that
> >>> blueness was also the only one replying.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Yeah, not having a clear lead is a problem.  No one wants to just make a
> >> big decision on behalf of the team without making sure everyone is on
> >> board.  Pacho, do you have access to timberdoodle? If so, join both
> >> teams and just take the initiative and let any other "claimants" step
> >> forward now.  BTW, taking the lead doesn't mean doing all the work
> >> yourself.  I want to see ppc/ppc64 in good shape.  I'll be happy to
> >> write scripts to do the demoting to ~ etc etc.
> >>
> > I don't even know about timberdoodle :(
> >
> > I forwarded the mail to both alias (as I forgot first time), then,
> > hopefully they will review it :/
> >
> > Will CC them again to this just now with this link to allow all to read
> > the full thread:
> > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/92151
> >
> >
> >
> 
> I think its clear who cares about ppc/ppc64.  If there are no 
> objections, I'll take the lead of those teams and see this plan 
> through.  I'll wait a few days for people to voice concerns.  Then I'll 
> start by generating a list of all stable and testing packages on ppc and 
> ppc64.  I'll post then and then continue the conversation on just the 
> ppc and ppc64 lists.  Don't worry, I won't start dropping to ~ until we 
> have a concise plan and we're all on board.
 
I don't think you can/should just take over the leadership of an arch.
Why not have meeting/discussion for team members. Especially since you
are proposing such a big change.  


Thanks,

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Jack Morgan
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