From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5007D13877A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CBA8E0C6C; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 916D8E09D8 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id bs8so2355305wib.14 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 08:39:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type; bh=f7GTL4UsWCk0nUVG5/C5l08dlizBJw3To4frKTV5Izs=; b=rPrvr95UZvNyDcnamsxv6UuW9zwqSWidMZlNgDjZF7ZJBMbJkT3VVif+opw9Ds8XCH kLOR+KwAUviYy/PYg7VU8NooV+mOwmkugCR7/ezHMyKJmuuOzbmN8KLr1uAz9jaQ93Z8 vhylsD49YZI4x52Az4EWZX8GE71AZ6M590ugQLHiBvmJtP4zX2T/Z+VlRaMJdl8A+9dB /c1bAOKqYCMSDkc7SGPWKT2O93YJP+Tq+/Rsn8qWD/4tjB06WrDgnxwHKBS/hqGsIMJR 9CF7Rspf9gLkJmMpZ7v7LmMaylXS3+8/Y8nUuyinEvy98yWH1n0/SD+4QRSZmPjnNDSO Ri7w== X-Received: by 10.180.189.107 with SMTP id gh11mr14666122wic.40.1406389170205; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 08:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc2-broo7-2-0-cust637.14-2.cable.virginm.net. [86.11.186.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r20sm8700142wik.0.2014.07.26.08.39.29 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 26 Jul 2014 08:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:39:23 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps Message-ID: <20140726163923.6dd4da71@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> <53CD8BBA.2010605@gentoo.org> <20140726163242.389162b6@pomiot.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.24; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/TzckbUb=xuYsOLnK5fFcMjR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 5b749d6f-2deb-4f76-b689-70724ce7950a X-Archives-Hash: 9e21b93983f4d6e6cb6fbcd09db30e43 --Sig_/TzckbUb=xuYsOLnK5fFcMjR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Martin Vaeth wrote: > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > All people with enough knowledge already know that this is > > technically impossible. >=20 > We already discussed in the bug how it *would* be possible, > just nobody implements it: >=20 > Portage would have to use dynamic deps throughout, > using the data stored in /var/db only to find out > the correct information for :=3D dependencies. >=20 > This would fix the behaviour except for some > corner cases concerning orphaned packages which > can lead to broken situations with any approach. Your solution fails spectacularly in the following ways: * Ebuild removal * Overlays * Introduction of :=3D dependencies * pkg_*rm Which brings us back to the "all people with enough knowledge already know that this is technically impossible" thing... --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/TzckbUb=xuYsOLnK5fFcMjR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlPTy60ACgkQ96zL6DUtXhFqSQCgz0zKaK9HC9bphMlBus/040FU ewIAn2E0fW4YDrGkNLXaG6zpoQnWIv/3 =Q3sn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/TzckbUb=xuYsOLnK5fFcMjR--