From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FCB13877A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1B67E1B88; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A460FE1B83 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id k48so4405235wev.26 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type; bh=f/s8oxsubElLCsqWTgindfDFE2o8KnkVE6J4UP2+0ik=; b=HzQNMr1l2+WRYR2vOiyLjDoRuR9mp11STUhqobbfZMLMtGrhUHxpNYfegBVVEnC60w 5Y4aY2Iq3fXNIgIrXKSN21tE2lEe14n2cfjIypUfMxix3AQw5Txddcm63ufCXVFEFURe 15dSXHrfwFSJM+/vSuNuIw6K+cpBpRssOcM4U6iaLvODEMAwaczCQ3S8tcW7oRPZX9bk HcRtc3Rzx8eCHwFknUMGlOzpthrTyaHAwymG2W9dnGysOHeErYghtl4QqzQAhMKuBVLZ OKt1ZMZ/3/XYozuQkmaEGC9Rx6x7MFPj06Nm0+fFc0u3xKxL4JuVVvQTSEhix418vRjS vjnw== X-Received: by 10.180.211.19 with SMTP id my19mr6227658wic.2.1406301995733; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc2-broo7-2-0-cust637.14-2.cable.virginm.net. [86.11.186.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o2sm7065215wij.24.2014.07.25.08.26.35 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:26:28 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps Message-ID: <20140725162628.32c0f611@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <53D2768E.8070400@gentoo.org> References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> <201407212153.04605.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20140721205527.142cb3d5@googlemail.com> <1405976767.1013.9.camel@gentoo.org> <53CE6CED.1060300@gentoo.org> <20140723004441.2e68c0b0@gentoo.org> <53D26D58.3000004@gentoo.org> <53D27343.6020009@gentoo.org> <20140725161540.64e47040@googlemail.com> <53D2768E.8070400@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.24; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/RRRA1NET3vxhW2UukV3_+eL"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 5d3dec67-8f9e-4046-8941-2e2e2f95c551 X-Archives-Hash: a6697058e765b4ac4c01ed07e2cedfad --Sig_/RRRA1NET3vxhW2UukV3_+eL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 15:23:58 +0000 hasufell wrote: > > That's not really helpful advice: dynamic dependencies can't be > > fixed. Instead, you should say that anyone who thinks they have an > > idea on how to fix dynamic deps should think about it until they > > understand why it's wrong... >=20 > I was rather talking about the "fix useless rebuilds" issue. It's a > valid point. It's like saying "OK, the house is on fire, but I really like the wallpaper, so we should just stay in the building"... > What would you suggest? Can the VDB be fixed in another way to avoid > such rebuilds? There are ways of doing it, if you're prepared to make ebuild authors put in an awful lot of work for very little gain. But it shouldn't be a priority, and we need to fix existing breakages before doing something ambitious like that. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/RRRA1NET3vxhW2UukV3_+eL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlPSdycACgkQ96zL6DUtXhHKTwCgy0JOizns1cxaSq8VEmYvQsob ueEAnA9CpRM+tyOqFnhj0bNV/Pw0SyjX =ZJ4+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/RRRA1NET3vxhW2UukV3_+eL--