From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E1013877A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E54DE0AB3; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C17E5E0AAF for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot.lan (77-254-85-187.adsl.inetia.pl [77.254.85.187]) (using SSLv3 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ECD363404BF; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 00:06:27 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?B?TWljaGGzIEfzcm55?= To: Pacho Ramos Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps Message-ID: <20140725000627.34d08221@pomiot.lan> In-Reply-To: <1405976767.1013.9.camel@gentoo.org> References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> <201407212153.04605.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20140721205527.142cb3d5@googlemail.com> <1405976767.1013.9.camel@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.24; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/VZaFIJOFmtSRx=2IQ8zmXyP"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: ac543c56-1e83-4672-bca0-8ddd35c6ba2b X-Archives-Hash: 1c4e1ff251254e11c48b42146dd09cb2 --Sig_/VZaFIJOFmtSRx=2IQ8zmXyP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia 2014-07-21, o godz. 23:06:07 Pacho Ramos napisa=B3(a): > El lun, 21-07-2014 a las 20:55 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribi=F3: > > On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:53:04 +0200 > > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > > > Revision must be bumped when the on-disk files installed by the > > > ebuild are changed.=20 > > > Nothing about dependencies. > > >=20 > > > This has been policy for a LONG time, and we're not going to change > > > it overnight just because you protest. > >=20 > > Policy used to be that you'd do a revbump when you wanted users to > > reinstall stuff, and you wouldn't otherwise. The only complication is > > that sometimes you want users to reinstall stuff so that there's > > accurate dependency information available, rather than because > > something has changed. > >=20 >=20 > Maybe this could be solved by having two kinds of revisions: > - One would rebuild all as usually (for example, -r1...) > - The other one would only regenerate VDB and wouldn't change the > installed files (for example, -r1.1) >=20 > But I am not sure if it could be viable from a "technical" point of > view :( I'm afraid it couldn't. The major problem is not knowing *when* to migrate metadata, portage usually gets that right. The problem is in getting the correct output which is often near to impossible. --=20 Best regards, Micha=B3 G=F3rny --Sig_/VZaFIJOFmtSRx=2IQ8zmXyP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJT0YNjXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2REJCMDdDQzRGMERBRDA2RUEwQUZFNDFC MDdBMUFFQUVGQjQ0NjRFAAoJELB6GurvtEZOSyAQALQn19Jni/tlED/SM1ENnhNC 7IZSm4q/yXG1UETVjBGeSTzbINl7p2w0m356OW9GuoQpSotl7+coghcoizfRF50X JwIP7knJ0q6l6HR37tNfWPJUpjU6jLb2EY/AaFctj88HNiEuTDK22Z7Fnf/LvrZW 39sOIa6Ost1Lt+6J0ZCrB4WuLW3z1lAShtAUms6oLK4QoWwX27z01iMWzWqTRZvk cy9dSZInUgajpq3pl4WjdIOJdkH4GKbr+o2mmbBkSWR5YAC2yakMbP0B42S2cM1S APCLdtwSqehwH9T8vvSMQxDYYm+llEqlipNjzhFX6WOt5sPSRQZxIyLCaU3TjYJC D3SeHzh95lQuVP4iaKl1EXtaq6NHJweCS1B+2KddIhrmSYg1z8msowfPu/mDcgSa 0xw974d254m8fZbPnhNnwGWLKX2SVtoZ3FgDYDLQTB+5mJSp5PR6DOkKzMd7fnRh rh2dxkFTREGpyVBfpM50flZQxD/zX7YGCrQgRsH86GNRTZymZBmDVVl9coFzFr8Z 3wRU+SqTyq+0k1EVYQ84G4FQa0vCGUWx449tNzat5DwWm3pmhKaqnoDp+03M1xwY ejpIiZq4C9xQNO0kGOVvemPekM5gQm6zWDWNG6nMQh6ata1kj7bnghlQN7x97+oC GJyiRk+1gEMxAB02bg7O =U+8i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/VZaFIJOFmtSRx=2IQ8zmXyP--