From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev+bounces-66779-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DD513877A for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B92DBE08E9; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:51:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from winston.telenet-ops.be (winston.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.75]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D59AE084A for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xavier.telenet-ops.be (xavier.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.52]) by winston.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C3C1BCA09 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 01:13:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gentoo.org ([94.226.51.153]) by xavier.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id VbD31o00H3JKcCE01bD3PL; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 01:13:03 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 01:13:00 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: tetromino@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps Message-ID: <20140723011300.2b6b51d9@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <1405992850.4756.3.camel@gentoo.org> References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> <201407212153.04605.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20140721225642.56aee8ed@pomiot.lan> <1405992850.4756.3.camel@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/SsR3HuaSV2mztHJAfvqJTdS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: d9218e12-63d6-476b-a3a3-1f8052aaf98d X-Archives-Hash: 9f7fc8d86ae0f760383954d4eb22f0f4 --Sig_/SsR3HuaSV2mztHJAfvqJTdS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:34:10 -0400 Alexandre Rostovtsev <tetromino@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 22:56 +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > Yes, it does. I'm not sure if it leads anywhere, though. Dynamic > > deps are a pipe dream. You can't implement them properly, so we're > > using half-working implementation as an excuse to be lazy. >=20 > Why not adapt the updates mechanism for modifying rdepends? Perhaps > something like >=20 > rdepends-add foo-bar/blah-3.14 "wombat? ( >=3Ddev-libs/wombat-1.0 )" >=20 > This would give the package manager all the benefits of static dep > resolution while allowing us to dynamically make simple changes (like > adding a missing dependency to an ebuild) without forcing users to > rebuild the package. Thinking this through: 1) What about rdepends-change and rdepends-del? If you only support addition; you get the same problem as with things like pkgmove, changing and/or removing it could become somewhat problematic. 2) This needs two commits every time you want to do this; one commit for the updates/, another to keep the ebuild recent for (rev)bumps. 3) It'll be a lot of fun to attempt to support this in Repoman. 4) How do we clean up these entries? Doesn't this info grow fast? 5) The first paramater: Should that point to a single ebuild? Should that support ranges? --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/SsR3HuaSV2mztHJAfvqJTdS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTzu/9AAoJEPWZc8roOL/Q1YoH/2rGZqOS2wMIaa/O5DIsZZTI 5Yetf9rel8guYrlvSJXj5yAmmTxqk3e5IWvJIxnoekswSpPE9GotsO0du8smQayS C3Zrr5FGSBhvPkTANrTg5kwtRmYWRLbs1cstuFP8CadfiAKtGfcH2loqIOnnM5Hy Sz0gukelAodGErDGKCxx2hH1J6fkuq2RlYiUwCy/dVXTzvlJdgXL/91++yIlXkMI RQelwaiWDFcgnAPDyDK/PpwLZ02peU4XVBkpJbnlH3P6rBYXHPTRG6tMXUiaQmb7 h/D81i3de7OdULmtjTuRdbNIN5QqTo4I8jcIDjtFNIdS/XMo3gfAyuBkFja6H4w= =M2Ak -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/SsR3HuaSV2mztHJAfvqJTdS--