From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8A113877A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CA33E077C; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wilson.telenet-ops.be (wilson.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.42]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8001AE0769 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xavier.telenet-ops.be (xavier.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.52]) by wilson.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463D035A9A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 01:06:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gentoo.org ([94.226.51.153]) by xavier.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id Vb6J1o0013JKcCE01b6JFl; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 01:06:18 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 01:06:15 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: ssuominen@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps Message-ID: <20140723010615.0df2c4aa@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53CDF23C.1090007@gentoo.org> References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> <201407212153.04605.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20140721225642.56aee8ed@pomiot.lan> <53CD8269.3050808@gentoo.org> <20140721225251.GA22854@linux1> <53CDB8C7.7040106@gentoo.org> <53CDF23C.1090007@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/J5YnMX3uE/pGEhuP2vb9RJq"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 9570df15-702b-490f-a7e3-6de5b96cfc5f X-Archives-Hash: 31f58d8489089fae917823a5a9803c29 --Sig_/J5YnMX3uE/pGEhuP2vb9RJq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:10:20 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 22/07/14 04:05, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > > > > And just for fun, since no one has mentioned it yet, dynamic deps > > don't work at all on binpkgs since the Packages file contains the > > deps (like vardb) and it doesn't get updated (just like vardb). >=20 > Known long standing pitfall. It's managable. It is one of the reasons I see binpkgs as breaking progress instead of being part of the progress; it is manageable, but it could be better. > > Revbump or make dynamic deps actually work (ha). >=20 > If they are really as broken people claim, why is the feature enabled > by default in the > official package manager? Why are these discussions resounding more strongly with each occurrence? > As in, why I'm not seeing a bug with title "sys-apps/portage: disable > dynamic deps by default" https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D516612 > with a Comment #0 listing all the culprits why it should be disabled > by default? They've been gathered throughout this thread; yes, they could use a summary, but that doesn't change that all the culprits exist out there. > Or do people think it works well enough, so that it's pros overweight > the cons? I do,=20 > and many others seem to think so as well. Depends on what the pros and cons are; it makes the difference between merely thoughts and an actual reality, to construct towards a decision. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/J5YnMX3uE/pGEhuP2vb9RJq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTzu5nAAoJEPWZc8roOL/QfCEH/Rmf7OOd3MPP+dCDXw38CprJ VEJoiGE9bYuuaalo6dUmgSP+//2Z7DdIWVwcd91XXK0AeaDjLL63UmwwFOJU8NfZ OVTQduE9LjQf5CuY0mp1K1WkQyl8dwjXKAGGz+V7Ds1/b9RWJoFNYTxoP5XAZst3 meBHgCzDIvBbM3kM6HScNX1nwkTaz+CjDMBiKB9wVypPrfjwPBAloeaMwkUOr/ot ZNoWQgYeHw4l/cMUCodRKLX88B1rOu94UAfOrucgYXLW1c70zutSiY5CxBV3fszC L+1yA1C5WlXeXCf9/T8PGtvs0jjalav+DclDULmUSywTpaUqaCbmLS3r+PsZqK4= =wSOr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/J5YnMX3uE/pGEhuP2vb9RJq--