From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8BB13877A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D4F0E0B96; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mo4-p05-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo4-p05-ob.smtp.rzone.de [81.169.146.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DF7FE09B0 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:53:06 +0000 (UTC) X-RZG-AUTH: :IW0NeWCpcPchHrcnS4ebzBgQnKHTmUiSF2JlOcyz+57jTVMtVX7771jWiJc= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 Received: from pinacolada.localnet (95-130-165-192.hsi.glasfaser-ostbayern.de [95.130.165.192]) by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 35.2 AUTH) with ESMTPSA id D07f91q6LJr5iJX (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:53:05 +0200 (CEST) From: "Andreas K. Huettel" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:53:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.12.21-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4897699.msuu33ue4F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201407212153.04605.dilfridge@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 5dae4bee-42b6-47c8-9190-f4746fc6509c X-Archives-Hash: 058472779483a58474e219e248aa5755 --nextPart4897699.msuu33ue4F Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 21:37:17 schrieb hasufell: > afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS >=20 > still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who > either don't use dynamic deps (it's optional for portage through > --dynamic-deps=3Dy, although it's on by default) or who use a different PM > to not get the fix, at worst resulting in broken dependency calculation >=20 > suggestion: > * stop fixing dependencies without revbumping > * add an appropriate question to the dev quiz > * remove dynamic deps from portage (afair that is already considered by > the portage team) Actually the quizzes are pretty much clear on that.=20 Revision must be bumped when the on-disk files installed by the ebuild are= =20 changed.=20 Nothing about dependencies. This has been policy for a LONG time, and we're not going to change it=20 overnight just because you protest. Now... whether dynamic deps are technically the right thing to do is anothe= r=20 question. It merits discussion, but we need to be really sure about the=20 consequences of any change. =2D-=20 Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer=20 dilfridge@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ --nextPart4897699.msuu33ue4F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0 iQJ8BAABCgBmBQJTzW+gXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQwNzlCRDk4QzA4RENBRkYzQUEwRjQzMDlF QkU2QTMzNkJFMTkwMzlDAAoJEOvmoza+GQOcnu4QALHuYD3SKOpGPfMC7Ly134Hb ECRfEbyN8xvMYt6iFZBzDLUFdPgYzGJ8RdD0/Sjz+UsGY1YF9z0ifMzUlr3sTbOS gHoys7LrQARl20IhIuDFOXoVWfH6hY58z+ZULU7iDFJmpsJ+PYX1Vo7KLoM5HLYj HtccgJR6BbQvzL5p7FYq0kT+pWBZmEFLuLXNUXgprSI0qknoSSsnkZ8B+OyK6uzh w1mHDwqhe+ybel/ZIxLW7E90rcPMM3kFXgrTNwNk8Hkv1D1ZwHAcCkeqUSKjQHOI pX0nhAa022Uog9gDwIRtfQxWyLLj5S0wL3OwMVHCjjmiWzjUx55cobXHrV1a1CVE 7ETUXoSBAKKG2uoprk7FTbrz3UFRX70PMdUXgJx1dMpljYVxcmgZSXg8ya9i9rwK Aueo+zNdK/S8xB/E9Ub1ueQRsr85qbUP5Pwv1wapETVyrifEum6vlKfdqbWnVdtf w+dh4Cj8tcjsu+vqCd0952Tfl5Eq3/zf2lVO2btEwAW8LCMb/YioL8N3186NLycK /Ox5u2DksgWmkH9+z4C4x+gkbaa6+U8DQ2myKkhwEWAUFG/8XrEnbjYrcopmxoZT oBX8Z8Kp80216HfoWAtJ5SJNCkYyZRFNLA9Vsb4gVv9mejfh8WuWWxjYGyEtPRZ7 0B07PnxgdZ7+9THq7+DB =p9KX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4897699.msuu33ue4F--