From: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 21:53:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201407212153.04605.dilfridge@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org>
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Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 21:37:17 schrieb hasufell:
> afaiu dynamic deps are broken and not defined in PMS
>
> still... people seem to fix deps without revbumping, causing users who
> either don't use dynamic deps (it's optional for portage through
> --dynamic-deps=y, although it's on by default) or who use a different PM
> to not get the fix, at worst resulting in broken dependency calculation
>
> suggestion:
> * stop fixing dependencies without revbumping
> * add an appropriate question to the dev quiz
> * remove dynamic deps from portage (afair that is already considered by
> the portage team)
Actually the quizzes are pretty much clear on that.
Revision must be bumped when the on-disk files installed by the ebuild are
changed.
Nothing about dependencies.
This has been policy for a LONG time, and we're not going to change it
overnight just because you protest.
Now... whether dynamic deps are technically the right thing to do is another
question. It merits discussion, but we need to be really sure about the
consequences of any change.
--
Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/
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2014-07-21 19:37 [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps hasufell
2014-07-21 19:42 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-21 19:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-21 20:06 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-21 20:13 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-21 20:12 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-21 20:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-21 20:28 ` hasufell
2014-07-21 20:41 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-22 22:05 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-08-27 16:18 ` Jan Matejka
2014-07-21 20:49 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-21 21:01 ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-07-21 21:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-21 21:13 ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-07-21 21:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-22 22:13 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-22 21:11 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-22 22:22 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-23 13:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-22 21:56 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-25 8:36 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-26 12:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 13:33 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-21 19:53 ` Andreas K. Huettel [this message]
2014-07-21 19:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-21 21:06 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-21 21:15 ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-07-21 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-21 21:25 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-21 21:30 ` Maxim Kammerer
2014-07-26 12:52 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 12:54 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 13:00 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 14:57 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 15:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-22 7:39 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-22 7:52 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-22 9:50 ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-07-22 13:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-22 18:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-22 18:50 ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-07-23 4:11 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-22 18:51 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-07-22 19:10 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-22 19:26 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-07-22 20:06 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-22 20:40 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-07-22 20:51 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-23 13:15 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-26 11:20 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-23 1:15 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-25 8:38 ` Duncan
2014-07-26 11:31 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-22 22:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2014-07-23 0:01 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-24 22:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 13:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 13:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-25 14:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-25 14:59 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-25 15:09 ` hasufell
2014-07-25 15:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-25 15:23 ` hasufell
2014-07-25 15:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-25 15:44 ` hasufell
2014-07-26 7:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-07-26 12:41 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 12:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 15:04 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 15:09 ` hasufell
2014-07-26 15:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-27 11:42 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-27 11:50 ` hasufell
2014-07-27 12:01 ` [gentoo-dev] Behaving productively on the list Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-27 12:04 ` hasufell
2014-07-27 12:07 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-27 12:26 ` hasufell
2014-07-27 12:06 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps Samuli Suominen
2014-07-27 12:31 ` hasufell
2014-07-27 13:11 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 11:54 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2014-07-27 11:57 ` hasufell
2014-07-27 13:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-27 13:47 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-28 6:35 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-30 4:45 ` Alexander Tsoy
2014-07-30 5:36 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-30 7:22 ` Peter Stuge
2014-07-30 7:38 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2014-07-30 11:18 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-30 11:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-30 12:38 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-08-12 21:32 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-26 12:56 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-08-01 21:38 ` [gentoo-dev] PMS (was: don't rely on dynamic deps) Martin Vaeth
2014-08-02 5:19 ` [gentoo-dev] PMS Ulrich Mueller
2014-08-02 9:30 ` [gentoo-dev] PMS Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 12:08 ` [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps Ulrich Mueller
2014-07-23 13:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-25 1:45 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-25 15:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-25 15:53 ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-07-25 18:26 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-26 13:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 13:20 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-25 8:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2014-07-26 13:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 12:32 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 12:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 13:16 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 13:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 14:46 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 14:53 ` hasufell
2014-07-26 14:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 15:11 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 15:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 15:40 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 15:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-28 14:30 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-28 14:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-28 15:38 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-28 19:31 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-24 22:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2014-07-25 8:51 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-25 17:15 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-25 17:36 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-25 17:39 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-26 17:47 ` Taahir Ahmed
2014-07-26 18:21 ` Taahir Ahmed
2014-07-26 13:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 13:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 15:01 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 15:09 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-26 15:14 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-21 20:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2014-07-21 21:13 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-21 21:22 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-21 22:52 ` William Hubbs
2014-07-22 0:36 ` hasufell
2014-07-22 9:42 ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-07-22 19:42 ` William Hubbs
2014-07-22 1:05 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-07-22 5:10 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-22 23:06 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-26 4:36 ` Patrick Lauer
2014-07-26 13:55 ` [gentoo-dev] binpkg (was: don't rely on dynamic deps) Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 19:18 ` [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps Tom Wijsman
2014-07-22 22:52 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-22 1:34 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-07-22 23:13 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-23 2:05 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-07-26 14:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 14:29 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-26 15:18 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-25 7:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2014-07-22 22:29 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-21 21:52 ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-07-22 7:25 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2014-07-22 18:44 ` Kent Fredric
2014-07-22 18:50 ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-07-22 23:28 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-23 8:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-07-26 14:12 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 22:43 ` Kent Fredric
2014-07-27 7:16 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-27 10:16 ` [gentoo-dev] Avoiding rebuilds (was: don't rely on dynamic deps) Ulrich Mueller
2014-07-27 12:19 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 13:45 ` [gentoo-dev] Avoiding rebuilds hasufell
2014-07-28 5:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-28 15:15 ` Brian Dolbec
2014-08-01 9:35 ` Steven J. Long
2014-08-01 20:49 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-08-02 13:19 ` Steven J. Long
2014-08-03 15:14 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-27 10:43 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps Kent Fredric
2014-07-27 12:04 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 21:46 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 21:57 ` Kent Fredric
2014-07-28 18:27 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-28 18:35 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-22 19:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Samuli Suominen
2014-07-22 23:32 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-23 1:21 ` hasufell
2014-07-23 13:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-22 19:26 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-22 23:21 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-26 12:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-22 8:21 ` Michael Palimaka
2014-07-22 8:32 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2014-07-22 9:25 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-22 17:03 ` Sven Vermeulen
2014-07-22 17:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-22 17:32 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-22 8:33 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-22 23:36 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-23 12:14 ` Michael Palimaka
2014-07-25 21:59 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-26 17:12 ` Michael Palimaka
2014-07-26 19:21 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-26 19:30 ` Michael Palimaka
2014-08-12 21:49 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-26 14:25 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-08-12 22:11 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-22 11:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " hasufell
2014-07-26 14:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 14:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 14:33 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 14:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 14:40 ` hasufell
2014-07-27 7:46 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 14:32 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-26 15:27 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 15:29 ` hasufell
2014-07-26 16:10 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 15:35 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-26 15:59 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 16:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 16:36 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-26 16:45 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 15:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 16:05 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 16:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 16:28 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-26 16:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-26 18:36 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-26 18:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-27 16:27 ` Peter Stuge
2014-07-27 14:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2014-07-27 14:42 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 14:56 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2014-07-27 14:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-27 15:09 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 15:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-27 17:02 ` Peter Stuge
2014-07-27 17:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-27 17:16 ` Peter Stuge
2014-07-27 17:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-28 6:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-07-28 8:26 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-28 9:28 ` Peter Stuge
2014-07-28 13:12 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-28 13:29 ` Peter Stuge
2014-07-28 18:50 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-28 18:57 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-29 7:33 ` Peter Stuge
2014-07-29 9:12 ` Kent Fredric
2014-07-29 10:20 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-07-29 10:47 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 15:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Kent Fredric
2014-07-27 15:52 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 16:05 ` Kent Fredric
2014-07-28 4:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-27 20:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2014-07-27 20:51 ` Peter Stuge
2014-07-27 20:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-27 21:27 ` Kent Fredric
2014-07-27 21:34 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 21:50 ` Kent Fredric
2014-07-27 21:54 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 21:14 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-27 21:08 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 21:17 ` Michał Górny
2014-07-27 21:26 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-27 21:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-27 21:39 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-28 5:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-27 22:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2014-07-28 16:29 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-07-28 16:44 ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-28 5:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2014-07-27 14:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2014-07-22 21:47 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-25 5:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-07-25 22:09 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-07-26 5:21 ` Duncan
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