[gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website

[gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website

[Manuel Rüger]

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Hi everyone,

currently there is no default link, when the website of a package
becomes unavailable or never existed at all.
I've created a wikipage, which can be used instead of filling HOMEPAGE
with "www.gentoo.org" or non-valid urls like "none".

Please check your packages and update them to this link:
HOMEPAGE="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/No_homepage"

Feel free to add further useful information to the wikipage.


Cheers,

Manuel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website

[Jeroen Roovers]

On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:22:22 +0200
Manuel Rüger <mrueg@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Please check your packages and update them to this link:
> HOMEPAGE="https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/No_homepage"

In the same effort we could give all the Gentoo-specific packages
which now have that homepage URI a more specific (proj-/wiki-based, even
bugs.g.o-based etc.) URI.

> Feel free to add further useful information to the wikipage.

I wonder how many might still be reachable through the Internet
Archive. Worth a look in all particular cases before setting HOMEPAGE
to the default.


     jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:22:22 +0200
Manuel Rüger <mrueg@gentoo.org> wrote:
> currently there is no default link, when the website of a package
> becomes unavailable or never existed at all.

What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ?

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website

[Alexander Berntsen]

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+1. Nice idea Manuel!

On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ?
It is not very informative.
- -- 
Alexander
bernalex@gentoo.org
https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website

[Gordon Pettey]

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen <bernalex@gentoo.org>
wrote:

> On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ?
> It is not very informative.
>
The wiki page is equivalently informative. What's the point of metadata
that just says "there's no metadata"?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website

[Manuel Rüger]

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On 07/22/2014 01:20 AM, Gordon Pettey wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen
> <bernalex@gentoo.org <mailto:bernalex@gentoo.org>> wrote:
> 
> On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ?
> It is not very informative.
> 
> The wiki page is equivalently informative. What's the point of
> metadata that just says "there's no metadata"?

Users expect a url, not something like () . none or anything else.
The url gives information, that the website is not available anymore -
as it is part of the url itself: "No_homepage".
The wikipage gives hints where to find further information about the
package.

Cheers,

Manuel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website

[William Hubbs]

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 06:20:12PM -0500, Gordon Pettey wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Alexander Berntsen <bernalex@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > On 21/07/14 19:41, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > What's wrong with HOMEPAGE="()" ?
> > It is not very informative.
> >
> The wiki page is equivalently informative. What's the point of metadata
> that just says "there's no metadata"?

I'm just picking a random message to respond to.

I just noticed in PMS that HOMEPAGE is an optional variable, so we
really don't need a default home page at all. It seems completely legit
for an ebuild to not even define the HOMEPAGE variable.

William


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Default HOMEPAGE for packages with unavailable website

[Ulrich Mueller]

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>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, William Hubbs wrote:

> I just noticed in PMS that HOMEPAGE is an optional variable, so we
> really don't need a default home page at all. It seems completely
> legit for an ebuild to not even define the HOMEPAGE variable.

That's one of the places where our policy is stricter than PMS.
The devmanual says clearly that HOMEPAGE is mandatory, except for
virtuals.

Ulrich

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