From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0E313877A for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 07:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C904EE0B76; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 07:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD954E0AD8 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 07:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot.lan (77-255-6-176.adsl.inetia.pl [77.255.6.176]) (using SSLv3 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 12F7533FBB7; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 07:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:13:28 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?B?TWljaGGzIEfzcm55?= To: =?ISO-8859-2?B?SvZyZw==?= Schaible Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Changes in installed ebuilds Message-ID: <20140626091328.425f7ec2@pomiot.lan> In-Reply-To: References: <1403570947.24976.1.camel@rook> <53A9E3EA.1050203@sumptuouscapital.com> <53A9EA70.8060207@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/LfrSiXHfEoAAVr+5WbOwOiJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 8727006e-3055-4520-9bb9-876a6bcf9a01 X-Archives-Hash: 90986b1dff4911d00f46b80d304ad818 --Sig_/LfrSiXHfEoAAVr+5WbOwOiJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia 2014-06-26, o godz. 00:48:02 J=F6rg Schaible napisa=B3(a): > hasufell wrote: >=20 > > Kristian Fiskerstrand: > >> On 06/24/2014 09:25 PM, J=F6rg Schaible wrote: > >>> Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > >>=20 > >>>> On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 22:15 +0200, J=F6rg Schaible wrote: > >>>>> So, why the heck, was the dependency to dev-libs/glib changed > >>>>> for an existing ebuild without increasing its version (e.g. > >>>>> dbus-glib-0.100.2-r2)? > >>>> > >>>> Please see > >>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/91615 > >>=20 > >>> These blocks had nothing to do with the multilibs ABI. It has been > >>> just the updated versions for the dependencies. > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> For what it is worth, I completely agree significant changes to stable > >> ebuilds (hereunder changes to dependencies) should get a revision bump > >> and go through normal stabilization procedures. > >>=20 > >>=20 > >=20 > > That would be a waste of time and would increase the overall workload on > > arch teams who already need 2-4 weeks to keep up with the queue. There > > is no reason to re-stabilize a package after a build-time bug has been > > fixed by adjusting the version of a dependency. > >=20 > > Moreover, the fix that was applied was very important. >=20 >=20 > And, since the official tree did not have an older version of those deps= =20 > anyway, the upgrade in the stable dependent ebuilds was unnecessary. It j= ust=20 > broke the tree for users with local or other overlays. But people could have older versions of those deps installed, and then their systems would slowly become broken on upgrades. Since the issues wouldn't be caught early properly, they would trigger incorrect installs of another packages and a few dep-tree branches further, an unexpected hard-to-debug failures. --=20 Best regards, Micha=B3 G=F3rny --Sig_/LfrSiXHfEoAAVr+5WbOwOiJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJTq8gcXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2REJCMDdDQzRGMERBRDA2RUEwQUZFNDFC MDdBMUFFQUVGQjQ0NjRFAAoJELB6GurvtEZOGlcQAMy90X3OFR3w0NGw3LHIlCA4 NlOjG7lP3cSiL0vPaz2N4YZFfSm3px2r2E0t3VSFWeXuOYA1spHgIrR43zRgAe8z ii/kDg5WotWKufWRWPRLb7iSNAM8TveLASi/ixo4W2pY3D6snMuOW4r/JZgw4du6 cs6RgZ328vMo64wcLwuqs0qN4B0Zy/NB97hiu0j1ZIbOUTLa/lsS9wViiR/lENgp dS6cFQkl+ufGGJBSFshJUjS6mzh4hIa2yl8CLJPFy2co859GfpnszdOarrqcdr69 T+pU+AHKsx7kgo4UkhcU3b9butHGV9VAsdQ+s8FtN1cZbVvjmS8SKE0zAWoA5S49 CkX5z8VKB9vDNVT7/7T7a2aUzsTZ75Ra3uwGELGURK0O4PexJwe8KZprf2YW5zMy 4mNShKphJ4GoJGBqAdko85wvtTn2L6N2kNeze105n/4IQa3gACAP4Ncy+a9GyTJZ 9wx5tFVdlu4mCSvZwDc4Gj+uSlvTDk2p8CnFXudVr5IzcKxalbUcb00cWBtzIlc7 3vMSTf9ihupvHGTE90c/a4HTJAt/OsLxBUKE3tb+cippzYDmaheSLOcUaWN/4qe3 3k5JBCq3wESgIi2GEDKEtlKuGZzqHUfp8EdHIU+jgSaG1xOqKWpv+U2n58E8TMeE QKQRzXckxDrmA5s+hGhc =ygmd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/LfrSiXHfEoAAVr+5WbOwOiJ--