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From: Jeroen Roovers <jer@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] crossdev and multilib interference
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 23:42:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140616234208.631dc64b@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <539F5327.4060500@gentoo.org>

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 16:27:19 -0400
Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org> wrote:

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> On 16/06/14 04:05 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
> > On 06/16/2014 15:47, hasufell wrote:
> >> So I don't see what else we can do here other than taking more
> >> radical steps to INFORM users of these possible breakages... and
> >> that's exactly what a hardmask is for.
> > 
> > What about those of us who have been using crossdev to generate 
> > cross-compilers for years w/o issue, because we run non-multilib? 
> > Hardmasking crossdev to solve multilib problems doesn't accomplish
> > anything, other than just irk us.  Why not hardmask the multilib
> > stuff instead and leave crossdev alone?
> 
> well, we could hardmask in the multilib profiles...  but that's a bit
> of a digression

OK, let's sum it up.

We have multilib users.

We have crossdev users.

Some multilib users are crossdev users.

Some multilib users who are crossdev users have built a cross-toolchain.

Some multilib users who have built a cross-toolchain experience bug
#500338.

Masking crossdev would cause issues for all crossdev users.

Masking multilib would cause issues for all multilib users.

Masking crossdev on multilib profiles would cause issues for all users
of both crossdev and multilib who haven't built a cross-toolchain that
irks multilib

Masking crossdev on multilib profiles would also cause issues for all
users of both crossdev and multilib who haven't built a cross-toolchain
at all but now find they want to and run into bug #500338.

In short, masking crossdev in any of the above ways results in very
little progress, and is detrimental to solving the issue since the mask
would prevent testing on a wide range of platforms because of the
inconvenience that masking causes, deterring people from even trying.

     jer


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-16 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-12 15:46 [gentoo-dev] crossdev and multilib interference hasufell
2014-03-12 16:06 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-12 18:56   ` Alexis Ballier
2014-03-16 11:50   ` Greg Turner
2014-03-26  6:07     ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-26 12:25       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-03-26 16:12         ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-26 16:23           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-03-27  2:41             ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  4:41               ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-27  6:07                 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  6:31                   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-27  6:41                     ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  6:51                       ` Michał Górny
2014-03-27  7:23                         ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  6:58                       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-03-27  8:41           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-03-28  6:36             ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-30  9:53               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-06-15 20:35                 ` hasufell
2014-06-15 20:43                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2014-06-16 13:37                     ` hasufell
2014-06-16 18:42                       ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-06-16 19:31                         ` hasufell
2014-06-16 19:42                           ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-06-16 19:47                             ` hasufell
2014-06-16 20:05                               ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-16 20:24                                 ` hasufell
2014-06-16 20:59                                   ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-16 22:10                                     ` hasufell
2014-06-16 23:38                                       ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17  1:47                                         ` hasufell
2014-06-17  2:17                                           ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 12:30                                             ` hasufell
2014-06-17 12:49                                               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-17 13:53                                                 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 14:17                                                 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 14:56                                                   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-17 15:10                                                     ` Michał Górny
2014-06-18 15:24                                                       ` Peter Stuge
2014-06-19  7:58                                                         ` Michał Górny
2014-06-17 15:20                                                     ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-18  5:08                                                       ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-06-18  6:24                                                         ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-18 14:18                                                           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-19 21:20                                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-06-20 20:10                                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-21 10:31                                                         ` Greg Turner
2014-06-21 20:47                                                           ` Michał Górny
2014-08-01  9:05                                                         ` Steven J. Long
2014-08-01 14:36                                                           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-08-01 18:17                                                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-06-18  4:29                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2014-06-17 14:04                                               ` [gentoo-dev] Re: " Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 14:38                                                 ` hasufell
2014-06-17 15:02                                                   ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 15:18                                                     ` hasufell
2014-06-17 15:37                                                     ` hasufell
2014-06-17 12:48                                             ` hasufell
2014-06-17 14:31                                               ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-17 13:25                                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-17 14:22                                           ` Michał Górny
2014-06-17 14:34                                             ` Joshua Kinard
2014-06-16 23:25                                   ` Patrick Lauer
2014-06-16 20:27                                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-06-16 21:42                                   ` Jeroen Roovers [this message]
2014-06-17  0:03                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Kinard
2014-06-16 20:25                         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: " hasufell
2014-06-16  2:24                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2014-06-16 13:27                     ` hasufell
2014-06-17  4:52                       ` Ryan Hill
2014-06-17 12:29                         ` hasufell
2014-03-29  1:21       ` [gentoo-dev] " Maciej Mrozowski
2014-03-16 12:01   ` Greg Turner
2014-03-13  8:55 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-13 12:20   ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2014-03-26  5:17   ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  6:13     ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  6:51       ` Michał Górny
2014-03-27  7:18         ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27  9:10           ` Michał Górny
2014-03-27 14:23             ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-27 14:31               ` Michał Górny
2014-03-28  6:33                 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-03-29 21:39                   ` Michał Górny

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