From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D43113877A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7D4AE0AD5; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f178.google.com (mail-we0-f178.google.com [74.125.82.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95281E0ACD for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id x48so3285548wes.9 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 08:56:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type; bh=7X74hPFDUAQ/OKgCIEVo9358glkH3kBl/GiU55OluUQ=; b=mlv3KRBESZA9t9rKom0Oya/duF3Bf3rit8MjbHCRg/1Efgz6MDo0vLNDo7eihjGcQL mA4xX6Zn8v2mly8aQvSHLMN5gpg5z8XxWUuygvOADfOz4tsSynJ1cEXBdEqfZbXmVXZw 2K3cdVYJCWm7fdD0gsv+mTP5JKxuIgyCqxBOhzY1Y8lI0XWOJ4DeNRxtFCB1oxdTDSEy YnoIz8bTzqyWeJnj0h6ZJxaNR9rBaBhvdTwe54/4ECTmI0dKPkDQ3IDAoXHzEgqUcUCB n7CS9Y3T5FpVeC6OdU5/OagbHvPBSCrWTmHvdR9XqnLl1S6pyRI9le/oJDtq0Z6/CivI UgJg== X-Received: by 10.194.48.38 with SMTP id i6mr9429688wjn.46.1402761417399; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 08:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc2-broo7-2-0-cust637.14-2.cable.virginm.net. [86.11.186.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id wp2sm10306501wjb.29.2014.06.14.08.56.57 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Jun 2014 08:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:56:52 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Subslots: should they be bumped like SONAME or on any ABI changes? Message-ID: <20140614165652.046552aa@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <1402761029.16949.1.camel@rook> References: <20140614164151.45afb5ca@pomiot.lan> <20140614161341.6cc4c2fa@googlemail.com> <1402761029.16949.1.camel@rook> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/J_VJQK18Z9Vnlsv/zh8eVX4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: e97e0067-ce81-4d8f-b09a-77ed65c0c943 X-Archives-Hash: b9ed120593d6abafcd3cb86002fa76e7 --Sig_/J_VJQK18Z9Vnlsv/zh8eVX4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 11:50:29 -0400 Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 16:13 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2014 16:41:51 +0200 > > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > > However, this means that we force much more rebuilds than > > > necessary. > >=20 > > This shouldn't be considered to be a problem. >=20 > This would be suicide for Gentoo as a distro. Organizations that have > a dedicated build server and a standardized /etc/portage config tree > pushed to all user machines could rebuild half of @world once a week. > Individual users running Gentoo on a single workstation or server > can't and won't. Then either Gentoo should ship binary packages, or the user should find another distribution. Gentoo *already* does a full rebuild for packages whose bumps or revbumps just result in one text file changing. So long as there isn't a mechanism and full ebuild support in place to prevent this, it's a silly argument. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/J_VJQK18Z9Vnlsv/zh8eVX4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlOccMcACgkQ96zL6DUtXhHlFwCg5QxHlcv29filuiK6rFPTuZb/ n5QAn2rB8pdN83+GSBFkxZ3GPxG2vTOK =KVy3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/J_VJQK18Z9Vnlsv/zh8eVX4--