From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047531387FD for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA5E2E0A52; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8B3CE0900 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:10:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FF633F66B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:10:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.367, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SExUySY-qWOO for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D76BC33EE68 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 04:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WuZrf-00049e-OY for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 06:10:19 +0200 Received: from 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca ([71.17.69.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 06:10:19 +0200 Received: from rhill by 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 06:10:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Ryan Hill Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: The state and future of the OpenRC project Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:10:07 -0600 Organization: Gentoo Message-ID: <20140610221007.389e476c@caribou.gateway.pace.com> References: <20140607201920.0e0ccd5c@gentoo.org> <53937778.7020604@sporkbox.us> <20140607230815.07bc18e7@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <5393B6D8.4080201@gentoo.org> <20140608135616.581807d8@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <53947600.50506@gentoo.org> <20140608171543.45bf6ce7@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <53948A21.6020809@gentoo.org> <5396106A.4010209@gentoo.org> <53962AF6.1050500@gentoo.org> <20140610194500.2185800828ffd57eb1947614@gmail.com> <539728FB.3010305@gentoo.org> <20140610204553.7dbb98d661d265380631c6ad@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/0CY7Q2u8qxZICzrF/.5fXh8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 71-17-69-121.yktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Archives-Salt: 2480a1e4-8987-454f-833f-547a6e178285 X-Archives-Hash: 110e1fbdd822d1d267a61eb539c41b95 --Sig_/0CY7Q2u8qxZICzrF/.5fXh8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:09:26 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Andrew Savchenko wr= ote: > > > > Why are you saying that git is inefficient with large projects? It > > was developed with efficiency in mind in the first place. And > > kernel guys will likely disagree with "git is not great with crazy > > big projects" statement. >=20 > The kernel tree that "everybody" uses has only a single committer - > Linus. That is definitely a potential challenge that we may run into > migrating gentoo-x86 - we have many committers and a fairly high > commit rate. >=20 > With Linux you have a million separate git repos and everybody > cascades their changes up, which get merged into bigger and bigger > patch sets. So, Linus might get a set of updates to merge from the > video driver maintainer and it might contain 400 bundled commits, but > it isn't like the 400 committers have direct access to Linus's tree. > They all commit to their own trees and cascade up to the next level > via email. >=20 > We already have a working method of migrating the entire portage > history to git. However, the infra tools/etc are all built around git > and only a few people have access to update them. The git repository > needs to make it out to the mirrors/etc. >=20 > There are also a bunch of process-related details to work out. Does > everybody try to rebase onto master, or do we have lots of merges? > What happens if you do rebase onto master and then when you go to push > it isn't a fast-forward any longer because somebody else pushed first? >=20 > But, for the most part we just need to get the back-end re-written to > work with a git repo. Actually migrating the tree itself to git is > largely a solved problem. Weren't we also waiting for some gpg signing stuff to land? --=20 Ryan Hill psn: dirtyepic_sk gcc-porting/toolchain/wxwidgets @ gentoo.org 47C3 6D62 4864 0E49 8E9E 7F92 ED38 BD49 957A 8463 --Sig_/0CY7Q2u8qxZICzrF/.5fXh8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0 iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJTl9afAAoJEO04vUmVeoRjhjYH/0Xxs7X4QCYkkIVbJ0hvOr7Y skqj4LGAnxHRbQ9vsUEDgc3jTtvohRCiQkdFKAFftnr3XaPIBDK9CRRdN7/rqs5/ 2oQV/kX0A7YFliXdNdUWPhVfwAQQIAKLQs8XGYL5R0pY3k4Am2sASCj0YitXKgYs 9sDZZoCTApoRtaZ6uvDB/V7Y80eSH+lVU66o0gcw88YyZG1u3UMnuQYwrhUhsfHb sn2TTA058VhmYqSLB5irLvMbq2J5OJJmiwm1i1NIvVt5A5Lj0O5D//U0FkEgKk1z v7g6N4xF7apegE91s0PbVkRhCSthfEi9H1vgAlUB+jg8XftTLrU/gMkLO9XMpVw= =EkTr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/0CY7Q2u8qxZICzrF/.5fXh8--