From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DDD1387FD for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 505FAE097D; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.telenet-ops.be (albert.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.90]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DFEE0886 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gentoo.org ([94.226.51.153]) by albert.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id CNDM1o00J3JKcCE06NDMss; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:13:22 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:12:09 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: hasufell@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] The state and future of the OpenRC project Message-ID: <20140610001209.4a9fa8f0@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53962AF6.1050500@gentoo.org> References: <20140607201920.0e0ccd5c@gentoo.org> <53937778.7020604@sporkbox.us> <20140607230815.07bc18e7@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <5393B6D8.4080201@gentoo.org> <20140608135616.581807d8@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <53947600.50506@gentoo.org> <20140608171543.45bf6ce7@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <53948A21.6020809@gentoo.org> <5396106A.4010209@gentoo.org> <53962AF6.1050500@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/bS3MrOvJSAQ7CcASHuNbf8x"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 204de2f3-fb57-4b60-985d-03e194ebbf7b X-Archives-Hash: 8f67a77619d7770c55934d654268b5e2 --Sig_/bS3MrOvJSAQ7CcASHuNbf8x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:45:26 +0000 hasufell wrote: > Probably because no one mentored them on how to fix these QA issues. > Otherwise... if that's attitude, then that's just sad and has to be > fixed by those who run that overlay (review, contribution guidelines). >=20 > And I still think that the top 1 reason people run an overlay is > because it's easier than contributing directly. > A lot of overlay maintainers I tried to convince on getting more > involved even said that. >=20 > Even sunrise workflow has proven too slow and cumbersome... look at > the commit history, it's constantly decreasing. >=20 > Sure, reasons may vary, but there is not much positive to say about > current gentoo workflow. We are setting up https://github.com/gentoo/proxy-maintainers to deal with some of these problems; if sunrise continues to decrease activity, I suspect this repository has a chance to become its successor. Travis integration is used to cover QA issues, see https://travis-ci.org/gentoo/proxy-maintainers which runs repoman on the overlay for each commit; therefore, QA issues don't go unnoticed. To improve the workflow further; we use app-portage/overlint to catch differences between that repository and the Portage tree, after which there is room for even much more automation; thus more time reviewing. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/bS3MrOvJSAQ7CcASHuNbf8x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTljE+AAoJEPWZc8roOL/Qi1oH+gPspefdh8QFLMrApSKLjUyf fvJ56NMSBkuEhDdY2N33AzV3MexQkRijKeUP8hUKQW8ZU1cx4DnpVNdlj+lRpwrY JLDZ3r1uQe+RFNNfKlFBzaeGCrbiBYCSqqDNNUO0kYI8sxulM55/V3+HnJAZZDks I7+LVJCgvwBYzdp/Ovo29TkSxQvO847PAgGMYc9oIuJkVwd+Ri70LA81aI0FKoKt jOuwicCiPpoE1kB8Q1wDjjTeOnwfhuwxS/0yMlPdRPgjPH01S5kIe8P+cpGl3FFw GGctYy+PZ8kyGmW2x6An/oOXY+/i0fUDMcept1xRX2e9A5z0exXElEQIDz/FQxI= =b3WL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/bS3MrOvJSAQ7CcASHuNbf8x--