From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617E11381FA for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 07:16:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF3E1E0BD9; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 07:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from andre.telenet-ops.be (andre.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B73E0BBA for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 07:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gentoo.org ([94.226.51.153]) by andre.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id A7GT1o00c3JKcCE017GTV4; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 09:16:28 +0200 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 09:15:33 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: ssuominen@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: news item for upower Message-ID: <20140604091533.521557cc@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <538EA09D.70300@gentoo.org> References: <538DED0F.8010709@gentoo.org> <1401812396.19408.4.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> <20140603185813.18588.qmail@stuge.se> <538E26F6.2000801@gentoo.org> <538E2EEB.1080309@gmail.com> <20140604003244.733627bb@gentoo.org> <538E510C.3020703@gmail.com> <538E9C8F.30402@gentoo.org> <538EA09D.70300@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/JKVMrfMtGyrxZVSOlp=.AUJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 2c4aa2ef-ba56-45d7-b3ae-3bac53e944fd X-Archives-Hash: 01de8c20c2523c239ef2c16e7445618e --Sig_/JKVMrfMtGyrxZVSOlp=.AUJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:29:17 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 04/06/14 07:11, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > I'm just expecting more from our users. I don't think the news items > > were ever designed for simplistic things like this. >=20 > As in, GLEP 42 Critical News Item !=3D Learning tool for understanding > Portage output Simplistic things don't make a lot of users ask for support, file bugs, etc...; so, it is less simple to users than what you might infer. UPower is a dependency of a lot of desktop enviroments; besides that, I still believe that the majority of users don't run systemd. This makes a blocker like this so wide scale that it at least becomes important, as it is used much more compared to the CDDA reader example. Now what makes the difference between important and critical is the potential to become disastrous; this is where it becomes harder to judge how critical it is, but at the very least it affects a large share of users now as well as in future upgrades. They appreciate news. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/JKVMrfMtGyrxZVSOlp=.AUJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTjseWAAoJEPWZc8roOL/QxsoIAIKRQD/u6UnpI6Jt++Vxm5JY WUmMKTzkTXB0lI/3EEn5u+T0wY5tdg4ytOcktBkbZqVBnka9BbxMtYnWaH0U5S63 9302a4H2AuL1DSRLH4tZVAJvKggpyGIhSnCd5cDGnjsIXwPdyaQEv9U5jc8mp9H2 wXAbdEuwzpYwT+UWUrCDT05lbEpBgWPsG1+mpee7LwKbsHt54JCqlYx0Lf7bVRAo Sp6go3y4g86fSZ7eVIyuznjXUMN6uZ5FEBdBh8mW3lN2CRliCK+t6SCAVC/G99TA W2eia+liTcSVbQ3K6m/d0qffjDTC2XLn9lypNvGXlgP82dazIPwXhwOil/U9IXQ= =R8g+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/JKVMrfMtGyrxZVSOlp=.AUJ--