From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0072C1381FA for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 16:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7C40E0AA1; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 16:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baptiste.telenet-ops.be (baptiste.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.51]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A26AE09C9 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 16:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gentoo.org ([94.226.51.153]) by baptiste.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id 9s501o00q3JKcCE01s50tl; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 18:05:01 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 18:04:09 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore Message-ID: <20140603180409.5112c30e@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20140603165230.13011cbd@googlemail.com> References: <5383A0E6.3020700@gentoo.org> <20140531024701.GB3828@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <5389BA4C.8040106@gentoo.org> <2990845.EWIttsqmb4@andromeda> <538DB0C5.6070206@gentoo.org> <20140603140850.7b69dff6@gentoo.org> <538DBE76.8060300@gentoo.org> <20140603152000.256c8e2a@gentoo.org> <538DCD8F.2050908@gentoo.org> <20140603154000.6c8e0372@gentoo.org> <538DD1AA.8070804@gentoo.org> <20140603160545.002d75a2@gentoo.org> <20140603174805.2e8b33d7@gentoo.org> <20140603165230.13011cbd@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/l62qPKDsV4FPHRwE3cyk9_f"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: a8aeb5cd-f146-4707-9a69-be8b716feb85 X-Archives-Hash: e3b8f067c9f8de0b6f11f2291465313a --Sig_/l62qPKDsV4FPHRwE3cyk9_f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 16:52:30 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 17:48:05 +0200 > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 10:09:42 -0400 > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > Maybe in these cases the PM should make it more clear that > > > there was an alternative option. > >=20 > > Yes, Portage could also be helped out with some output improvements. >=20 > That isn't the issue... Developers need to stop being "clever" in > expressing dependencies, and start giving the package mangler explicit > information about what a dependency means. Relying upon heuristics to > figure out what a complicated mess of || ( ) and blockers means just > leads to things intermittently going horribly wrong. Which brings me back to the mix-in suggestion, which improves input. :) --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/l62qPKDsV4FPHRwE3cyk9_f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTjfH5AAoJEPWZc8roOL/QwrAIAIZpjTVctFKcvaRcPKJ+eSnr 3QfSYpwVmZEcCCcz1DYXBAHAcV3C4REWkiRh4ORq+iYXJHUGkGp4jpzQY0ZOFsPs VPXurRtrlYbXy9HtqEhtzIISaFSgnGgGnSnbDevzmarh8B+MAcYrOcn7L+2Fnpxn D0sFwQTN197SHpgydQdwQR55wc21RYMidAov2RPSiNhFI7pDHUWWClNgxgsTRFLs bMO7FDcZXe6UdOC3v9cOp4X/BmyOHBElOHGAxImOsx0dKicvFdfuPPWjVymwZ2cA k7TqZi2dGX0x05u5mhmfYsjDkJPC+U2gv84IibSkLemahS1MVraiaSpD5y1Zbyw= =dVlJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/l62qPKDsV4FPHRwE3cyk9_f--