From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A271381FA for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:21:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01FD1E08DC; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baptiste.telenet-ops.be (baptiste.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.51]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59F3E08C9 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 13:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gentoo.org ([94.226.51.153]) by baptiste.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id 9pLr1o00P3JKcCE01pLrbZ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 15:20:52 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 15:20:00 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: rich0@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UPower upstream (git master) and 0.99 release -> No sys-power/pm-utils support anymore Message-ID: <20140603152000.256c8e2a@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: References: <5383A0E6.3020700@gentoo.org> <20140531024701.GB3828@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <5389BA4C.8040106@gentoo.org> <2990845.EWIttsqmb4@andromeda> <538DB0C5.6070206@gentoo.org> <20140603140850.7b69dff6@gentoo.org> <538DBE76.8060300@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/c.B1xGC=gWK.B1PtQEC=4_7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 6902af05-20b1-48d0-b7d8-0d97faf972ac X-Archives-Hash: bf47af0b928209e6d9b9e35dfea9cba3 --Sig_/c.B1xGC=gWK.B1PtQEC=4_7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 09:04:23 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > The whole point of news is to tell people about an action they need to > take before they have to take it. The output of portage doesn't > really tell you what is going on. Note that I'm not against a news item in the short term; what I am suggesting with mix-ins is even a step before that, but that's something only achievable in the long term and of course not now. So, yes, please write and send a news item out as soon as possible. > The article in GMN doesn't provide clear instructions on what needs to > be done, and refers to 0.99.0 when the issue impacts 0.9.23 as well. Besides that, a longer title would help; currently it reads to me like "X update", which means that if I don't care about X or don't know X that I'm very likely to skip it. Mentioning systemd somewhere in there, as well as "transition"; could help with drawing attention to it. But given a news item, this GMN entry would become less important; regardless, it can help for those that manage to skip reading the item. > This has already hit stable. The dependency on systemd is present in > sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3, which was just stablized. Ehm, no, version 0.9.23-r3 controls that with a systemd USE flag; in comparison, 0.99.0 mainly wants you to run it with systemd: 26 May 2014; Samuli Suominen upower-0.99.0.ebuild: This release is mainly for use with sys-apps/systemd because upstream removed support for sys-power/pm-utils completely from git master. The 0.9 branch is for sys-power/pm-utils use. Adjust ebuild accordingly. Though I'm a bit confused why 0.99.0 doesn't list a systemd dependency; I thought it had one, but maybe it is in another package I'm unaware of. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/c.B1xGC=gWK.B1PtQEC=4_7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTjcuAAAoJEPWZc8roOL/QuMMH/imHI4igtcNyyYAO7OwFuFu7 CNK0T5Qn66Ct2ItsMZukfb6xEeyRV2ZVzssGxr6pmVwHiHd/bW2ofK6mkoWPIot3 0cXjJbof8zgj631OTR83M+33q/lzpLYJjMxt0sHkJ2YEPwQ2BzbBKaMQU41YmO5+ EScWS4hW7+YWSCoXMhoN03sC7sFgz5iKb3HQnmZvtgKB+80Bndg2ELi8Nvtsfvq7 BFOAW9sD0NzYgrfYe7Su6d1P6/jnbDnzOSR9HpnHp7jXvvDarzJnslfbzYalr1RS OV1Wi3R1SKiXvdY6P1B08tSQqNxVRWvI3ikjJWYDIsn4r2jVosQKUytsQiVxTi8= =bP31 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/c.B1xGC=gWK.B1PtQEC=4_7--