From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154CC13827E for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C26FE0A8A; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baptiste.telenet-ops.be (baptiste.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.51]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F382AE0A6E for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by baptiste.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id Hf5s1n0022khLEN01f5s5q; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:05:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:04:44 +0100 From: Tom Wijsman To: steev@gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy Message-ID: <20140124040444.058bd7a7@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <1390521859.3909.3.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> References: <52D5F0BF.3060305@gentoo.org> <20140115024604.GA3952@laptop.home> <20140115232804.1c26beda@kruskal.home.chead.ca> <20140116234442.27c361d1@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20140119143157.72fc0e91@kruskal.home.chead.ca> <20140120014713.2cafc257@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20140123181242.GA17827@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> <20140123201333.71e52bfc@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <1390510534.14914.22.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> <20140123233806.4709abd5@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20140123224228.1780.qmail@stuge.se> <20140124005040.350249c9@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <1390521859.3909.3.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/FusSpOZ2ewsAHiQt1gpd9RI"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 315b0531-5a90-46b5-9580-7f64a835cf73 X-Archives-Hash: 27e17b40385b8d644e6f597501648df2 --Sig_/FusSpOZ2ewsAHiQt1gpd9RI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:04:19 -0600 Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > Your "suggestion" was expanding the "arm" keyword to "armv4-linux", > "armv5-linux", "armv6-linux", "armv6-hardfloat-linux", > "armv7-softfp-linux", "armv7-hardfloat-linux", > "armv7-hardfloat-uclibc-linux" - that is nowhere near a good solution. We've ran over the reasons and they have appeared as fit for this idea. It can be prejudged as "nowhere near a good solution"; but for it to actually be that, it would need solid reasoning that people agree on. Reasoning is also needed to be able to figure out which conditions are fit for another solution; that way, the other solutions could be shaped with the help of that feedback to make the other solutions better. > The /dev/null comment was about wanting others to do the work and not > contributing anything more than (imo) a stupid idea The idea moves work from one place to another, which yields the same amount of work; your work statement seems like another topic, which you are making basic assumptions on. Solutions to the stated actual problem are neglected, as more time for research and consideration is needed. To get on the topic of your work statement; consider that one can find 7 people whom each have one arm configuration much faster than one can find 1 person that has all of them. > if you aren't willing to put in the work, don't expect others to. If you are unwilling to work towards solutions, don't expect others to. > And yes, I see what you mean now re: my reply seeming off - it would > seem when I hit group reply, for some reason, Evolution is putting > Peter Stuge into the CC, and not Tom Wijsman (despite hitting group > reply from your email. Maybe there should have been more testing of > Gnome 3.8 before it was stabled on x86... http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/FusSpOZ2ewsAHiQt1gpd9RI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS4dhMAAoJEJWyH81tNOV93UIIALjqWLiQfemTNhsbKiV7iFew zQtreU/defBJa3a2QTsml+zFo+nHVVXF8blV3WaDSVrZEB+0tW3qwLz667+bGCM6 eJATUlXHgXidXSNqdIJkDs8xWVcv+GM+doiNqjeRYeKQGzDmwrnfdXQmjTn4nQTv ostSWL4HboQ1A3Je7UTEQyT2ybkI3SvO9eO8zKYdnaJy6IynbCKf3NxWfYKJjR7F NMuo1NuiFKBVjSuybgLlXDDSroX2a7lsABuz7uXEQernjf+ST9q14ahMRsq6gtC6 hpZP83oA9/KEL03APJFDGDrsWA/biUOd+nj9VtvkswQ7p3tITGemC9hW4g6SAHw= =YPp5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/FusSpOZ2ewsAHiQt1gpd9RI--