From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>
To: steev@gentoo.org
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:04:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140124040444.058bd7a7@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1390521859.3909.3.camel@oswin.hackershack.net>
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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:04:19 -0600
Steev Klimaszewski <steev@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Your "suggestion" was expanding the "arm" keyword to "armv4-linux",
> "armv5-linux", "armv6-linux", "armv6-hardfloat-linux",
> "armv7-softfp-linux", "armv7-hardfloat-linux",
> "armv7-hardfloat-uclibc-linux" - that is nowhere near a good solution.
We've ran over the reasons and they have appeared as fit for this idea.
It can be prejudged as "nowhere near a good solution"; but for it to
actually be that, it would need solid reasoning that people agree on.
Reasoning is also needed to be able to figure out which conditions are
fit for another solution; that way, the other solutions could be shaped
with the help of that feedback to make the other solutions better.
> The /dev/null comment was about wanting others to do the work and not
> contributing anything more than (imo) a stupid idea
The idea moves work from one place to another, which yields the same
amount of work; your work statement seems like another topic, which you
are making basic assumptions on. Solutions to the stated actual problem
are neglected, as more time for research and consideration is needed.
To get on the topic of your work statement; consider that one can find
7 people whom each have one arm configuration much faster than one can
find 1 person that has all of them.
> if you aren't willing to put in the work, don't expect others to.
If you are unwilling to work towards solutions, don't expect others to.
> And yes, I see what you mean now re: my reply seeming off - it would
> seem when I hit group reply, for some reason, Evolution is putting
> Peter Stuge into the CC, and not Tom Wijsman (despite hitting group
> reply from your email. Maybe there should have been more testing of
> Gnome 3.8 before it was stabled on x86...
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html
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2014-01-14 21:37 [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy William Hubbs
2014-01-14 21:57 ` Michael Orlitzky
2014-01-14 22:33 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-14 22:43 ` Michael Orlitzky
2014-01-14 23:11 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-14 23:22 ` Jeff Horelick
2014-01-15 0:28 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 23:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-01-16 0:23 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 0:47 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Orlitzky
2014-01-15 1:08 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 1:11 ` Michael Orlitzky
2014-01-15 1:23 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 1:36 ` Michael Orlitzky
2014-01-15 2:09 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-15 2:21 ` Michael Orlitzky
2014-01-15 2:34 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 2:40 ` Michael Orlitzky
2014-01-15 3:26 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 2:46 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-16 7:28 ` Christopher Head
2014-01-16 22:44 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-19 22:31 ` Christopher Head
2014-01-20 0:47 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-23 18:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-01-23 19:13 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-23 20:55 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-23 22:38 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-23 22:42 ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-23 23:50 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-24 0:04 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-24 3:04 ` Tom Wijsman [this message]
2014-01-24 3:52 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-24 17:26 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-24 18:10 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-24 19:29 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-24 20:29 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-24 21:55 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-24 10:46 ` Steven J. Long
2014-01-24 18:26 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-25 4:02 ` Duncan
2014-01-26 0:50 ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-26 0:59 ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-26 4:53 ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-26 11:41 ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-26 18:56 ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-26 21:35 ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-27 7:41 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-27 14:52 ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-28 2:45 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-26 22:56 ` Duncan
2014-01-26 23:40 ` Duncan
2014-01-28 12:37 ` Steven J. Long
2014-01-28 12:52 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-01-28 13:18 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-28 13:11 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-29 3:15 ` Duncan
2014-01-29 6:34 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-15 2:42 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 11:33 ` Sergey Popov
2014-01-15 16:57 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 17:20 ` Matthew Thode
2014-01-15 2:26 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 11:28 ` Sergey Popov
2014-01-15 0:13 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 0:50 ` Michael Orlitzky
2014-01-15 1:13 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 23:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-01-15 0:04 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2014-01-14 23:49 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 0:06 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-01-15 0:17 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-01-15 0:43 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 0:38 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 0:46 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-15 1:26 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 11:40 ` Sergey Popov
2014-01-15 17:04 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-16 6:20 ` Sergey Popov
2014-01-16 15:54 ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-16 17:56 ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-16 18:04 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-01-16 18:26 ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-16 20:18 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-01-16 20:40 ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-16 18:11 ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-16 18:42 ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-16 19:29 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-16 19:59 ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-16 22:49 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-15 3:48 ` grozin
2014-01-15 4:49 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-15 5:07 ` Robin H. Johnson
2014-01-15 8:03 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2014-01-15 8:18 ` Hans de Graaff
2014-01-15 16:11 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2014-01-15 9:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2014-01-15 12:51 ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-15 21:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-01-15 11:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sergey Popov
2014-01-15 11:30 ` Sergey Popov
2014-01-15 15:30 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-16 6:17 ` Sergey Popov
2014-01-17 6:06 ` grozin
2014-01-17 7:02 ` grozin
2014-01-17 7:58 ` Matt Turner
2014-01-17 15:02 ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-17 15:02 ` Michał Górny
2014-01-18 1:35 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-17 15:31 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-01-17 16:47 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-17 17:08 ` grozin
2014-01-18 0:34 ` Manuel Rüger
2014-01-17 18:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-01-17 23:56 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-18 12:59 ` [gentoo-dev] arch="any" (Re: rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy) Steven J. Long
2014-01-17 17:07 ` noarch packages, was Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy grozin
2014-01-19 8:36 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-01-19 9:28 ` Add a KEYWORD representing any arch (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy) Pacho Ramos
2014-01-19 9:46 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Add a KEYWORD representing any arch Ulrich Mueller
2014-01-19 10:15 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-01-20 19:25 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-22 15:46 ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-01-19 9:48 ` Add a KEYWORD representing any arch (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy) Mike Frysinger
2014-01-17 21:04 ` [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy Maciej Mrozowski
2014-01-15 18:33 ` Thomas Sachau
2014-01-15 19:07 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-16 0:58 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-16 2:32 ` Robin H. Johnson
2014-01-16 5:47 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-01-19 11:06 ` Thomas Sachau
2014-01-16 6:27 ` Sergey Popov
2014-01-16 7:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2014-01-15 19:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ruud Koolen
2014-01-15 21:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
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