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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>
To: tommy@gentoo.org
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:56:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140121235614.5cc6dda1@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52DEE09A.5020608@gentoo.org>

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On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:03:22 +0100
Thomas Sachau <tommy@gentoo.org> wrote:

> With this in mind, i currently dont see any case where QA would need
> the ability to remove the commit access of a dev, so i dont see a
> need for this glep update.

The case you have enumerated is just one possible case, this is a case
where policy is in place; it is however not always the case that there
is policy, or perhaps even that policy is unclear. In these other cases
the QA team has to take an actual decision instead of "it is policy"; in
such cases, the reasoning behind this becomes technical and you get the
whole idea we have been discussing here.

Besides that, you also have the possibility for bigger breakages to
happen; regardless of whether or not they are written down in policy.

In some of these cases the roles of QA and ComRel become questionable;
cfr. the whole discussion on #gentoo-qa, where I also asked the reverse
question as to why QA has the power to suspend people in a technical
area like the Portage tree when it is not part of their terrains.

And just to make it clear one more time; it is the ability to
"temporarily" "suspend" the commit access, as a means to get the
developer to contact us where the developer was otherwise unavailable
or intended to not communicate or listen to us. It is no way an actual
removal or permanent decision; or well, it might be if this is about
repeated behavior, but that's a whole different story...

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-21 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-19  5:02 [gentoo-dev] rfc: formally allow qa to suspend commit rights William Hubbs
2014-01-19  5:07 ` William Hubbs
2014-01-19  5:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " W. Trevor King
2014-01-19 12:46 ` [gentoo-dev] " hasufell
2014-01-20  1:05   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-19 20:22 ` Denis Dupeyron
2014-01-20  1:01   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-20  1:22     ` Denis Dupeyron
2014-01-20  2:47       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-22 16:30   ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-01-20  1:24 ` Alec Warner
2014-01-20  2:54   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-20 13:59     ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-20 14:09       ` Alan McKinnon
2014-01-21  0:22         ` Patrick Lauer
2014-01-21  0:46           ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-21  5:29             ` Alec Warner
2014-01-21  5:27           ` Alec Warner
2014-01-22 17:54           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-01-22 22:37             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-01-22 22:59             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-21 14:56         ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-21 15:47           ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-21 17:26             ` William Hubbs
2014-01-21 17:50               ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-21 17:56           ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-21 18:11             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-21 18:16               ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-21 19:18                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-21 21:03                   ` Thomas Sachau
2014-01-21 22:56                     ` Tom Wijsman [this message]
2014-01-21 23:14                       ` William Hubbs
2014-01-22  7:00           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-01-22 10:36             ` hasufell
2014-01-22 10:39               ` hasufell
2014-01-22 10:58             ` Alec Warner
2014-01-22 23:29               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-22 12:34             ` Patrick Lauer
2014-01-22 19:42               ` Rich Freeman
2014-01-22 23:40                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-22 22:06               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-01-22 23:15             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-21 23:20         ` hasufell

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