From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E240F138247 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2ACF6E0B80; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.telenet-ops.be (albert.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.90]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 156C4E0B27 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by albert.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id G0oF1n00F2khLEN060oF1H; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:48:16 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:47:13 +0100 From: Tom Wijsman To: chead@chead.ca Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy Message-ID: <20140120014713.2cafc257@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20140119143157.72fc0e91@kruskal.home.chead.ca> References: <20140114223312.GA3337@laptop.home> <52D5BDAD.4030808@gentoo.org> <20140114231113.GA3393@laptop.home> <52D5DAB6.1000609@gentoo.org> <20140115020802.700b1568@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <52D5E03C.3010900@gentoo.org> <20140115022337.4336618d@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <52D5E60A.80600@gentoo.org> <20140115020934.GA3886@laptop.home> <52D5F0BF.3060305@gentoo.org> <20140115024604.GA3952@laptop.home> <20140115232804.1c26beda@kruskal.home.chead.ca> <20140116234442.27c361d1@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20140119143157.72fc0e91@kruskal.home.chead.ca> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/f7tZoVNPlw.CXTm_pcD/k1V"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 130b95bb-28ad-467c-9c7a-c2131cb1f0bd X-Archives-Hash: cc6042b951a35c201be13546bbbe734d --Sig_/f7tZoVNPlw.CXTm_pcD/k1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:31:57 -0800 Christopher Head wrote: > Right, of course things can become incompatible=E2=80=94but the distro ha= ndles > that by either leaving old enough version of e.g. libraries around > that the latest stable versions of their reverse dependencies don=E2=80= =99t > break, or, in exceptional cases (e.g. security), by breaking things > intentionally if necessary, thus telling me that there=E2=80=99s a proble= m. True, note that upper limits on the dependencies ( If stable really is falling behind and the backlog is always growing, > obviously something has to be done. I just don=E2=80=99t want =E2=80=9Cso= mething=E2=80=9D to > mean =E2=80=9Cdon=E2=80=99t have a stable tree=E2=80=9D. The stable tree = provides me with a > benefit. If standards have to slip a bit to maintain timeliness, then > I=E2=80=99d prefer a stable tree that=E2=80=99s as stable as practical, a= ccepting > reality=E2=80=94perhaps where users are able to submit reports of working > packages, or where we let platform-agnostic packages be stabilized > after one arch has tested, or various of the other suggestions in this > thread. Just not no stable tree at all. +1 as long as we can find effort and ways to keep it around. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/f7tZoVNPlw.CXTm_pcD/k1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS3HIRAAoJEJWyH81tNOV9IBoH/RSwcO0jnkehXSr/cMNSnNWd 1HaygaGU6nOYKNz17Bt8XpTvzaLPWFOEYLz9WUoUCRm7Wy3bF115DltqAN7TjA+s 3K/C4UO5xgHqRnRnZL88APDCTQqGB1SoeYTECpm5TaPHmCjGkVbF7E0rQ2NcS7Mk 7HyFEfMybMI178qFqmzBBQbqkPiIeT4c93bK/Q340CzETKENNPYnGMiSV2Xd2zX9 TgfxgDcyAmwvBHKz6WFpvWriwSWcBRMinKYTzT2uSH9+pHgrD3Qxk+bhtIalEL6q NjKm9Nlb2C3LgCoSJfm3CLT9nDf48b+86Uayi1sN3PsxcuUba2rxqeYZX1GG+iE= =SLVa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/f7tZoVNPlw.CXTm_pcD/k1V--