From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922A4138247 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E724E0A6B; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com (mail-oa0-f53.google.com [209.85.219.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28817E09F2 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id i7so447468oag.26 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:46:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=Zlcy1jgWusUZgXq0tuJ8C7nUhBxQ5hTKG0Gwtsn8tLI=; b=y2oa2c75IFUhg6ARPMe2Oj+oiwVPyFhHAFkVwCLXInYp9E5Y+AZ+7WDp8HfazVFKLk giWCOZXTUBNaxkIWQHSxPTM5lS7bG4sj24jxgv1ijIXlTKy21xeUGzCLRLfXT0Sa1Cjh 6GtNpjLOW4PTFAes140AGdGWNjc/1WA7xXT0h2TaAs8RdEG4xTNJLbI4c4SqMW3zs1Xp /BeGjsw+ptoSwulqhBOyonKwRuMmhZglMUkkACeH9qE4EiSXk0Isv/bI5BAFULz+Q6xy oMEdL+kwCsx3syaRoJBNjQeUqPIQTMCh1GdCC3jloRFanOAhupkgRr6d+45jT0lkBm6A 7CyA== X-Received: by 10.60.85.37 with SMTP id e5mr3680931oez.21.1389746766361; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nw5sm2565007obc.9.2014.01.14.16.46.03 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:46:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by laptop (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 14 Jan 2014 18:46:06 -0600 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 18:46:06 -0600 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: revisiting our stabilization policy Message-ID: <20140115004606.GA3526@laptop.home> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20140114213719.GA2684@laptop.home> <20140115004928.1fae6bf9@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <201401150106.20742.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20140115013808.42d4fb5f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140115013808.42d4fb5f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 28becf32-4c22-485e-9bc9-07346e9345d8 X-Archives-Hash: de2db3161bdc97f8d59f15bae61c3a59 --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 01:38:08AM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 01:06:07 +0100 > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: >=20 > > Am Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2014, 00:49:28 schrieb Tom Wijsman: > > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 15:37:19 -0600 > > >=20 > > > William Hubbs wrote: > > > > Thoughts? > > >=20 > > > In this situation, I see three opposite ends of choices: > > >=20 > >=20 > > Here's another idea:=20 > >=20 > > 4. Friendly ask the arch teams / make a policy that @system packages > > come first.=20 >=20 > Hmm, I'm wondering if that has an actual use or whether that would just > move the problem. The bug in question that WilliamH demonstrated is > indeed part of @system; but shouldn't be, it is due to functions.sh. Correct; Openrc ultimately will not be part of @system; it is provided by a virtual that is. If you want to say @system, you have to include all rdepends of virtuals in @system and all packages that are dependencies of any packages in @system, at least. Keeping track of that will be difficult at best. William --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlLV2k4ACgkQblQW9DDEZTjeFgCgj1jZZOHO0zFsGyFk4ZBo5SFU DdYAoILlPsaTDPnqEWamDPymesH9YL2I =3vJ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu--