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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:29:51 -0600
From: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [OT] pkgcore bikeshed
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On 11:02 Mon 13 Jan     , Steven J. Long wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 04:15:37PM +0700, "C. Bergstr=F6m" wrote:
> > > Realistically, we have to keep updating them both in parallel.=20
> > > pkgcore needs to be brought up to portage-level functionality,
>=20
> Yeah but it already outshines under the hood: all you're talking about=20
> is EAPI and radhermit is working on it; I'm sure he and dol-sen would=20
> be happy for more help as well, so long as it's supportive. ISTR=20
> TomWij is involved too.

Working on the UX of the emerge frontend is also of extreme importance=20
if you want people actually using it. Speed is absolutely a usability=20
feature but it's not the only one that matters. Maintaining EAPI parity=20
is table stakes.

--=20
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com>
Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/>

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