Re: [gentoo-dev] [OT] pkgcore bikeshed (was Portage team)

[Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>]

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On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:49:17 -0800
Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> wrote:

> The caching may not be of use, depending on your configuration. (For
> example, if you use a gentoo-x86 checkout as your main repo, you will
> probably want to run generate cache entries whenever you cvs up.) It
> is there to cache ebuild metadata, because if your depgraph has a few
> thousand nodes, having to spawn bash to generate the metadata for
> every node is very expensive.

It sounds crazy to use gentoo-x86 without a cache; to some extent, the
earlier mentions on this ML by Ciaran that we should improve input
would make more sense if would want to run without a cache. But I feel
like this shouldn't be a topic of discussion unless we intent 'works
fast on a plain CV checkout' to be an actual feature.

I haven't checked, but doesn't Portage in that case build its own cache?

> It is helpful for users cause it can automatically find solutions for
> users that are otherwise unsolvable (and thus avoids the user having
> to find a solution to the depgraph manually.)

If we document how to process --depgraph=0 output, I believe it could
just as well be used; but yes, it basically involves having to run a
few manual upgrades (emerge -1 ...) and/or masks to get going. But you
can do those things in seconds rather than to wait a few minutes...

Some of these Portage could even do automatically regradless, like for
instance the 'no parents' slot conflicts; in which case I think you can
just always upgrade to the newer version, instead of outputting them it
put them as upgrades at the end of the emerge list I think. But I
haven't investigated that further, I'm just getting tired of seeing 'em.

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With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

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