From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A034138247 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FC9FE0A07; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jacques.telenet-ops.be (jacques.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.50]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA329E09DE for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by jacques.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id DSj01n01o2khLEN0JSj0xD; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:43:00 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:42:02 +0100 From: Tom Wijsman To: cbergstrom@pathscale.com Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage team, Zac's development break and stepping down as lead Message-ID: <20140113154202.4a1eca06@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20140113083917.5427344.53422.41690@pathscale.com> References: <1388986435.17870.49.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> <1389582464.7103.185.camel@big_daddy.dol-sen.ca> <20140113083917.5427344.53422.41690@pathscale.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/neqtJ8Vx16=B0p0dmMPiQ_a"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 03019267-6132-408b-9497-6a2ffc8b1881 X-Archives-Hash: 46c436a023565edb4967e415557be09a --Sig_/neqtJ8Vx16=B0p0dmMPiQ_a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:39:17 +0700 C. Bergstr=C3=B6m wrote: > Drive-by trolling comment but I wish the effort to keep porkage alive > would have instead been directed towards pkgcore. If we still have users left by the time pkgcore is finished... Moving the work efforts from one PM to another and expecting the future to go well is too optimistic, of course it would make pkgcore a great thing eventually but it can come at the cost of Gentoo itself; *danger*. While Portage's performance might have dropped a little (though is still quite fast [~30s] on --backtrack=3D0), the development on it didn't stop as Arfrever and few_ have been committing over the past weeks to months; there just hasn't been a release because the lead position was MIA... And before anyone pulls a "pkgcore almost has EAPI 5 support" comment; you should note that EAPI 6 is around the corner, and many of its would-be features have already been implemented in Portage. I'm in doubt if the same hold true for pkgcore; which was known to be dead for a while as its founder left development, and it took some time for two of our developers to pikc it up again. So, yes, we need more people on pkgcore; no, we can't just leave Portage behind, as it still is the beating heart of Gentoo for now. Who knows, as we get up to speed, Portage might even see some neat refactoring and performance improvements; or well, that's what I expect to see some of us work towards to. We're already putting measures in place to clean up the source code (short variable names, file length); but for now, it's not that huge of a problem to stop using it at all. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/neqtJ8Vx16=B0p0dmMPiQ_a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJS0/s+AAoJEJWyH81tNOV9oIoIAIi/foKwqlQIsWqrrqCUoRua lxr5I+yaf8kFrLHO89hSb6rH6idnsgs/1FQmF6njCgz/+elUBteci8ZS/dhNzTAe F/WArnS6AXtd/1BSqwIP2WWLvH0uJd3aVP4HIxiVm+1hcyDQn71jbvu8QUQY1bZY ZcFZynD0madKrzakJWXvoWT220yeoKmAWgyjWaYtIRfSvjxq7ZRjyGi50URSyG+o sM/Cr7v2MRZkSfGGrnhp8+QZrUhKNDBefLs7ctiogqmplcf7d9KUIFYqhJZImnFi fkfqk7wBTJNL5fkoVUoibo8Snhzob/nYxOHJYDUcQZTYyss+JStjk7J+4aks+pM= =N98k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/neqtJ8Vx16=B0p0dmMPiQ_a--