From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>
To: cbergstrom@pathscale.com
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage team, Zac's development break and stepping down as lead
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:42:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140113154202.4a1eca06@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140113083917.5427344.53422.41690@pathscale.com>
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:39:17 +0700
C. Bergström <cbergstrom@pathscale.com> wrote:
> Drive-by trolling comment but I wish the effort to keep porkage alive
> would have instead been directed towards pkgcore.
If we still have users left by the time pkgcore is finished...
Moving the work efforts from one PM to another and expecting the future
to go well is too optimistic, of course it would make pkgcore a great
thing eventually but it can come at the cost of Gentoo itself; *danger*.
While Portage's performance might have dropped a little (though is still
quite fast [~30s] on --backtrack=0), the development on it didn't stop
as Arfrever and few_ have been committing over the past weeks to months;
there just hasn't been a release because the lead position was MIA...
And before anyone pulls a "pkgcore almost has EAPI 5 support" comment;
you should note that EAPI 6 is around the corner, and many of its
would-be features have already been implemented in Portage.
I'm in doubt if the same hold true for pkgcore; which was known to be
dead for a while as its founder left development, and it took some time
for two of our developers to pikc it up again.
So, yes, we need more people on pkgcore; no, we can't just leave
Portage behind, as it still is the beating heart of Gentoo for now.
Who knows, as we get up to speed, Portage might even see some neat
refactoring and performance improvements; or well, that's what I expect
to see some of us work towards to. We're already putting measures in
place to clean up the source code (short variable names, file length);
but for now, it's not that huge of a problem to stop using it at all.
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-06 5:33 [gentoo-dev] Portage team, Zac's development break and stepping down as lead Brian Dolbec
2014-01-06 7:53 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2014-01-06 8:27 ` Brian Dolbec
2014-01-13 3:07 ` Brian Dolbec
2014-01-13 5:05 ` Brian Dolbec
2014-01-13 8:39 ` C. Bergström
2014-01-13 8:43 ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-01-13 9:15 ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] pkgcore bikeshed (was Portage team) "C. Bergström"
2014-01-13 9:31 ` Fabio Erculiani
2014-01-13 9:38 ` "C. Bergström"
2014-01-13 14:58 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 15:38 ` Luis Ressel
2014-01-13 15:46 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 17:03 ` Luis Ressel
2014-01-13 18:07 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 18:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-01-13 18:19 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 16:49 ` Alec Warner
2014-01-13 17:10 ` Fabio Erculiani
2014-01-13 18:16 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 18:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-01-13 18:32 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 23:22 ` Patrick Lauer
2014-01-13 23:49 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 11:02 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [OT] pkgcore bikeshed Steven J. Long
2014-01-13 12:28 ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-01-13 13:06 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-01-13 13:50 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-01-13 15:28 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 17:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2014-01-14 7:41 ` [gentoo-dev] pkgcore EAPI-6 (Was: OT: pkgcore bikeshed) Steven J. Long
2014-01-13 15:21 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [OT] pkgcore bikeshed Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 20:29 ` Donnie Berkholz
2014-01-13 14:46 ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] pkgcore bikeshed (was Portage team) Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 14:56 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-01-13 15:31 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 18:01 ` Brian Dolbec
2014-01-13 18:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-01-13 18:27 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 18:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-01-14 7:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-01-13 14:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2014-01-19 8:25 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-01-13 17:37 ` Greg KH
2014-01-13 17:42 ` "C. Bergström"
2014-01-13 17:56 ` Greg KH
2014-01-13 8:59 ` [gentoo-dev] Portage team, Zac's development break and stepping down as lead Dirkjan Ochtman
2014-01-13 14:42 ` Tom Wijsman [this message]
2014-01-13 14:46 ` Peter Stuge
2014-01-13 15:38 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-13 16:41 ` Alec Warner
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