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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC
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On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:59:35AM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Alexander Berntsen
> <alexander@plaimi.net> wrote:
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> > On 11/12/13 21:41, William Hubbs wrote:
> >> My thought is to rename our "rc" to "openrc", since that would be
> >> unique.
> > orc is shorter and more punny (nice excuse for designing an orcish cow
> > mascot).
> >
> > On 11/12/13 22:04, William Hubbs wrote:> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at
> > 10:47:49PM +0200, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> >>> are you going to rename also rc-service and rc-update?
> >>
> >> No, there isn't a need for that, just "rc".
> > Please rename all of them, to provide uniform naming. This way, typing
> > orc, and tab-tabing in BASH will give you a list of orc-related
> > executables, just like with rc now.
> >
>=20
> That makes no sense; there is almost no reason to manually invoke the
> "rc" binary currently, an Gentoo users are already familiar with names
> like "rc-update" and "service".
=20
There are reasons to run the rc binary directly; this is how you should
be changing runlevels.
> Renaming everything just forces users to learn new command names for no r=
eason.
Right, there is no reason to rename everything.
In git, what I've done is rename rc to openrc and provide rc as a
backward compatibility symlink.
I agree with the comment earlier in the thread; debating the name is
just bikeshedding.
William
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