From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 16:25:52 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131208222552.GA22567@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52A2B788.3040409@gentoo.org>
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On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 12:52:08AM -0500, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
> 1.) If we are going to stuff this into @system then we probably want a
> USE=nonet flag to allow users to not pull anything in if they really
> don't want it.
We don't have to put this in @system at all. We could just have a
virtual/network-manager, like we have virtual/cron, virtual/logger,
virtual/mta, etc. None of these are installed by default; you have to
choose one as part of your installation process. The more I read this
thread, the more I agree with this approach; let the user make the
choice as part of the installation process.
> Just as a side note, after reading the thread up through this point, I'm
> terrified of the individuals who wish to remove networking support from
> stage3 entirely. If anyone wants to push that idea then that needs to
> be addressed by the council. Period. Such a major change is going to
> cause a holy war, and myself and others will actively revert any change
> which removes net from stage3 under the guise of "critical breakage"
> unless there is council direction that says we are no longer including
> net support in the stage3s.
I am in agreement with Rich and Peter. This isn't a matter of breaking
the stages; it is a matter of us getting out of the way and letting the
users pick the network stack they want. We do this for the kernel, boot
loader, etc, so I don't understand why you feel we need council
direction to make a similar change for the network manager.
William
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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-01 10:20 [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up Alessandro DE LAURENZIS
2013-12-01 10:36 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-02 20:28 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-02 21:19 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-02 21:24 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 17:32 ` Alexander V Vershilov
2013-12-03 21:11 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 21:43 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-03 23:00 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-03 23:29 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-04 1:14 ` mingdao
2013-12-04 15:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 16:46 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-04 21:25 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 21:30 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 22:31 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-04 22:36 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-04 23:42 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05 17:03 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-05 8:01 ` Martin Gysel
2013-12-05 9:23 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-04 23:45 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05 0:13 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-05 0:20 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-12-05 0:17 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-12-05 1:56 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-06 15:26 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-12-06 15:38 ` Ben Kohler
2013-12-05 7:39 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-12-05 12:30 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-05 17:01 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-12-07 5:52 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 12:42 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-07 14:22 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-07 23:25 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-08 2:34 ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:31 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 6:22 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 17:18 ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-12-07 15:04 ` Peter Stuge
2013-12-08 22:25 ` William Hubbs [this message]
2013-12-09 14:50 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 15:28 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-09 18:47 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-09 19:56 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-10 1:33 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 10:31 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-10 11:23 ` Rich Freeman
2013-12-10 18:46 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2013-12-11 17:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-12-16 22:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-11 2:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 5:56 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 20:13 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 20:47 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-12-14 21:57 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-14 22:22 ` Luis Ressel
2013-12-16 22:38 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-14 17:24 ` mingdao
2013-12-15 0:59 ` William Hubbs
2013-12-15 1:37 ` mingdao
2013-12-16 22:41 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-12-09 23:30 ` Patrick Lauer
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