From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 00:06:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131116000637.37bf769f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131115233934.7142bb04@gentoo.org>
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 23:39:34 +0100
Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Dnia 2013-11-15, o godz. 14:53:00
> Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
>
> > As I see it now, with respect to multilib, we have three competing
> > solutions, but not a clear direction which way we want to go as a
> > distro:
> >
> > 1: emul-* packages
> > 2: multilib-portage
> > 3: multilib.eclass
> >
> > I would like to vote for option 1, as it is the least intrusive and
> > does what we need. If it is really felt we need a more complete
> > solution, then my vote would be for 2, since 3 is too intrusive and
> > more likely to break or complicate stuff for normal users.
> >
> > If you say council should take more of a leadership role, then maybe
> > this issue can be decided by council and a clear direction be taken
> > by the distro as a whole? Then those who oppose the choice made can
> > either put up or shut up, and we can all work at implementing the
> > chosen solution.
>
> And what does, say, a Council decision change? Sure, Council can
> affect opinions of some developers and so on but this is something
> that needs real work, not talking and deciding. Sure, you can convince
> the developers that X is better than Y but you also need to find
> someone who will actually work on X.
>
> And I think the actual work done by *different* people shows which
> solution is most preferred by the community. This is not something
> that judges whether it's the best one, but probably it'll the most
> maintainable one. Think of bus factor.
This is comparable to survival of the fittest; you can't just pick an
animal and have it be a success in a circus, you'd need to careful to
see which animal is fit for it and learn it all the tricks. Only then
people will come, watch and come back later...
(Cirque du Soleil thinks outside of the box and doesn't use animals)
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With kind regards,
Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer
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2013-11-13 10:28 [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 11:39 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 13:25 ` Thomas Kahle
2013-11-13 13:37 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 14:00 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 14:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-13 14:55 ` Thomas Kahle
2013-11-13 15:16 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 18:56 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-11-13 20:21 ` James Potts
2013-11-13 21:22 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-17 10:20 ` Sergey Popov
2013-11-13 13:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 14:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 14:04 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 14:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2013-11-13 15:02 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 15:58 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 23:49 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 5:13 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-14 12:03 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:13 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 12:30 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:45 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 19:07 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-11-14 19:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-11-14 23:40 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 17:51 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-14 23:38 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:21 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 12:32 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 12:57 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 15:12 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 16:38 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 17:32 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 6:53 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-15 7:13 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-11-15 11:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-15 14:30 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 15:30 ` Duncan
2013-11-15 12:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Lauer
2013-11-15 14:27 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 13:33 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 22:39 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-15 23:06 ` Tom Wijsman [this message]
2013-11-16 8:22 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-11-16 10:57 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-11-17 16:09 ` hasufell
2013-11-17 16:35 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 16:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-11-16 12:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-16 12:46 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-16 20:24 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-16 21:52 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 0:53 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-16 22:52 ` Duncan
2013-11-13 15:23 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 15:41 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-11-14 0:11 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 15:42 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-13 16:05 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 17:05 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-11-13 15:44 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-13 16:52 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 17:03 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-13 17:49 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 18:24 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-13 18:50 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 4:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matt Turner
2013-11-15 5:23 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-15 15:54 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 16:05 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 20:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-15 20:22 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-16 12:46 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-17 17:04 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 17:15 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 18:46 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:32 ` hasufell
2013-11-17 20:16 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 17:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 19:10 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:57 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 18:56 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-17 19:18 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:27 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 19:51 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 21:41 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-16 12:50 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-16 12:58 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 18:13 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-17 18:18 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-15 19:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 19:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 19:31 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 19:36 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 20:00 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 20:10 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 20:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 20:25 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 20:53 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:09 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 21:27 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:21 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 21:38 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:45 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 22:08 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:57 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 22:13 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 22:26 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 22:58 ` Tom Wijsman
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