From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9B7138247 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 20:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A47F4E0A6F; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 20:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from georges.telenet-ops.be (georges.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.68]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55D8E09F8 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 20:25:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by georges.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id pwQz1m00t2khLEN06wQzYP; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:25:00 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:24:03 +0100 From: Tom Wijsman To: peter@stuge.se Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask Message-ID: <20131115212403.42c3810f@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20131115201041.3110.qmail@stuge.se> References: <20131115210033.4fee8516@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20131115201041.3110.qmail@stuge.se> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_//1DyZmDaZRaunWlNP0LJ_tS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 68b6cec1-56d1-49bc-8ec7-56c644088c2c X-Archives-Hash: f2c4215ac9415d4ae021152cdfc82948 --Sig_//1DyZmDaZRaunWlNP0LJ_tS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:10:41 +0100 Peter Stuge wrote: > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > !!! Enabling --newuse and --update might solve this conflict. > > !!! If not, it might help emerge to give a more specific suggestion. > >=20 > > That together with ABI_X86=3D"(64) (-32*) (-x32)" from the package > > line makes it clear that it is trying to change that USE flag. >=20 > I disagree quite strongly with that statement. There is no clear > message at all about the situation. > > The problem is that the USE flag is "hidden" on the package line as > opposed to mentioned explicitly by portage. It's easy for software to > print meaningful output based on the data it has while it is awkward > for humans to scan lines and lines of output for parentheses with *s > and -s. Which is not the case here; as a single package is being emerged, the output is rather short. So, it is as clear as how much you read of it. The shortness of the output actually makes it much easier to scan. The other case would be `emerge -uDN @world` which gives a lot of output; but that case is different, as it wouldn't suggest the above. Now imaging if that long output was very much longer; the longness of that output, would be quite impossible to scan within the time one would process the normal `emerge -uDN @world` output. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_//1DyZmDaZRaunWlNP0LJ_tS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJShoLjAAoJEJWyH81tNOV9Qx8H/jf7q28AId2sk1L/lhHWtU70 ygCGk/Z1BT8O/9qF+2D67MGZ2K8OQDEWKDJg9b6yYLSEk3npHgBfy1+XoOp/seAr WXF0EfPBC9Au5ssOz7BTKTwdO6FoS0by65QU3yMtIyyNsXeND2lDqjJKXBnzLOaB bJiOAFeD8ybKyQEqymCHA/CY/hy8mDywHuzNWmvhs6YrAiLpKXjbIF6/cOj8UHpV 8/OhBKodSfEctgFjewcO5hPFUcLw/pIcsm0q8iJs+ZRQDS9m127ecV4HNdYzCPPS aHqhQlYrunPRz/PqtPSFJTTBukIIuSHLQrQ1vGusWNe2bowfSfhAMI1oEj/AKm8= =HMEn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_//1DyZmDaZRaunWlNP0LJ_tS--