From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>
To: floppym@gentoo.org
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 01:11:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131114011137.5d696d31@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ0EP43Fj_JfCw3=X-_Xxjbw+COzV0e6aPtHGJmRpLj+rNK+7Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 10:41:40 -0500
Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Let's talk about the development workflow we use for a minute:
>
> [...]
>
> This is not a completely social issue; there is a very real
> technical/QA issue that needs to be addressed on the development side.
> If you can figure that out, we can talk about changing the end-user
> experience.
The existence of use.stable.mask and the end-user experience however
have no one-on-one mapping (or should not have it); so, currently from
the user perspective it is easy to put the blame on use.stable.mask
without entirely being experienced with it from a developer perspective.
The blame being put there might be a consequence of something being
more problematic towards the interface with the user; some form of more
proper feature, notification or communication missing. I think that we
should rather look at what kind of options we have to improve things
there, because I really don't see a change to the existence or
functionality of use.stable.mask coming out of this thread.
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With kind regards,
Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer
E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org
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2013-11-13 10:28 [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 11:39 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 13:25 ` Thomas Kahle
2013-11-13 13:37 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 14:00 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 14:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-13 14:55 ` Thomas Kahle
2013-11-13 15:16 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 18:56 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-11-13 20:21 ` James Potts
2013-11-13 21:22 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-17 10:20 ` Sergey Popov
2013-11-13 13:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 14:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 14:04 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 14:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2013-11-13 15:02 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 15:58 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 23:49 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 5:13 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-14 12:03 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:13 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 12:30 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:45 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 19:07 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-11-14 19:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-11-14 23:40 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 17:51 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-14 23:38 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:21 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 12:32 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 12:57 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 15:12 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 16:38 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 17:32 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 6:53 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-15 7:13 ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-11-15 11:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-15 14:30 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 15:30 ` Duncan
2013-11-15 12:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Lauer
2013-11-15 14:27 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 13:33 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 22:39 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-15 23:06 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-16 8:22 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-11-16 10:57 ` Thomas Sachau
2013-11-17 16:09 ` hasufell
2013-11-17 16:35 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 16:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-11-16 12:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-16 12:46 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-16 20:24 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-16 21:52 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 0:53 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-16 22:52 ` Duncan
2013-11-13 15:23 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 15:41 ` Mike Gilbert
2013-11-14 0:11 ` Tom Wijsman [this message]
2013-11-13 15:42 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-13 16:05 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 17:05 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-11-13 15:44 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-13 16:52 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 17:03 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-13 17:49 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 18:24 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-13 18:50 ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 4:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matt Turner
2013-11-15 5:23 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-15 15:54 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 16:05 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 20:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-15 20:22 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-16 12:46 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-17 17:04 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 17:15 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 18:46 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:32 ` hasufell
2013-11-17 20:16 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 17:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 19:10 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:57 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 18:56 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-17 19:18 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:27 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 19:51 ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 21:41 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-16 12:50 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-16 12:58 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 18:13 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-17 18:18 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-15 19:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 19:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 19:31 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 19:36 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 20:00 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 20:10 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 20:24 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 20:25 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 20:53 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:09 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 21:27 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:21 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 21:38 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:45 ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 22:08 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:57 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 22:13 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 22:26 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 22:58 ` Tom Wijsman
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