From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA582138247 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 12:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C31FE0B12; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 12:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from georges.telenet-ops.be (georges.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.68]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451E0E0B09 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 12:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by georges.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id lQCq1m00H2khLEN06QCqjW; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:12:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 13:12:11 +0100 From: Tom Wijsman To: yac@gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec) Message-ID: <20131104131211.1a776552@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20131104112632.0c7ff3de@gentoo.org> References: <20131104051518.51efd36c@gentoo.org> <52775FD3.7000102@sporkbox.us> <20131104112632.0c7ff3de@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/Mv1.bepP319KuurX9Rbu2_b"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 4f4802dd-b55d-4459-94f5-a84faf6778f6 X-Archives-Hash: a2e838504844a528d0ff36366f66c08a --Sig_/Mv1.bepP319KuurX9Rbu2_b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:26:32 +0100 yac wrote: > On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:51:32 +0000 (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: >=20 > > FWIW, I have a whole set of short, often 2-4 letter aliases/scripts > > that take care of the various options > > Sooo, basicly you have defined buttload of aliases, somehow managed to > remember these nonsensical names and actually did not save any > keystrokes, because most linux users heard of tab completion and use > it succesfuly to complete commands and their arguments. Cool story > bro. Cool story guys. Just like how MSOffice 2007 had tons of shortcuts to remember whereas they got rid of that in MSOffice 2010 by intuitive context relevant shortcuts; yet, people had memorized the shortcuts and are much quicker than having to learn all the positions in the new intuitive Ribbon bar. I didn't learn those shortcuts; so, I am quick with the Ribbon bar... Or why do ebuild name-1.ebuild clean manifest unpack ebuild name-2.ebuild clean manifest unpack diff -urN /var/tmp/portage/name-{1,2}/workdir/* # ^ Actually, you would need to source S=3D"..." twice. which requires a ton of tabs when I can just do `ediff 1 2`? I can memorize it, but perhaps others need more short commands and can't. You'll find out that people end up using both approaches; so, please let's not get into detailed opinions, it is just a matter of choice. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/Mv1.bepP319KuurX9Rbu2_b Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSd48bAAoJEJWyH81tNOV9GPAH/jF3ERN7t6FHbO+lNfdzuRNj MVbp95yVeimkoDul2h0UPYgJQdYPSHngELFs8L4d0b3dfM/fqfDEfi9s24UylA4/ tQLXNuzP07g1lG8G+5syam0RRfdTySil5vFVjysuQ/U5+jTUz/vrD3sm8zrCDOgC YsSzzHyvjXZ4MKQm+E0wSU1sl0L7v3hHAIpLD7WB4PZ+19dDe4Y3vYqDu/5Vn25v zJm3UfWUJ5f+uRZi9TNC2KaCZ7rF2WIJ0aaFMmfqj5Lg4XtTOGhMEVir9Vv1nRdP 566NJduUeuaMwnMsi/L7UVYfXwOZDpilBMQ0aE4YCnu5FTcIJjHNLNIQZmmVJv0= =iQWv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Mv1.bepP319KuurX9Rbu2_b--