On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200
Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote:
> Sadly, it's somewhat common for (newish) users to not know what to do
> with that. Blocker output can be quite daunting in the beginning,
> especially if it's in the middle of 20 other things portage is also
> updating.

+1 I agree, we should look into having errors not only tell what we
should not do, but also tell what we could do; every time I see a
blocker it is annoying that I have to go manually search the solution.

Let's say I have the blocker:

    <dev-python/python-exec-10000 is blocking
    dev-lang/python-exec-0.3.1

We could have it additionally say something like:

    To resolve this blocker, you can run one of the following commands:

        emerge -1 '>=dev-python/python-exec-10000'
        
Taking another example:

    <dev-lang/vala-0.20.0" is blocking
    dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.36.0-r1

Why not have it say:

    To resolve this blocker, you can run one of the following commands:

        emerge -1 '>=dev-lang/vala-0.20.0'
        emerge -1 '<dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.36.0'

For the last example it was smart enough to see 1.36.0 and 1.36.0-r1
have this blocker, whereas the lower versions did not; and if there's a
range, it could just list all options.

This spares me out from having to inspect "${PORTDIR}"/dev-lang/vala
and "${PORTDIR}"/dev-libs/gobject-introspection manually to figure out
what's really going on; it's quite repetitive work that we currently
need to do manually for every blocker we meet, which can be automated.

Do other people like this idea? Should it be worded differently? If so,
I might try to work out a patch together with the Portage team.

!! Moving this sub discussion to the Portage Dev ML; please respond
there and drop gentoo-dev from CC, thank you very much in advance.

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With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

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