From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421671387AB for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 00:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 159FCE0A8E; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 00:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from juliette.telenet-ops.be (juliette.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.74]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83C3E09BE for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 00:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by juliette.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id kQ0c1m00A2khLEN06Q0cyJ; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 01:00:36 +0100 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 00:59:59 +0100 From: Tom Wijsman To: ryao@gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] open season on other-dev's packages -- policy change? Message-ID: <20131102005959.5533c1b5@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <527424F4.7030000@gentoo.org> References: <20121123022210.GE4100@comet.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> <50AF84E9.2020608@gentoo.org> <50AF8916.9070004@gentoo.org> <50B1C234.40609@gentoo.org> <50B23CA4.90506@gentoo.org> <20131031170825.23388.qmail@stuge.se> <20131101161842.1257b1f3@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20131101194936.27426.qmail@stuge.se> <20131101195353.27828.qmail@stuge.se> <20131101221846.294e95e5@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <527424F4.7030000@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/t5td4=mT9.PcP/XHlA/XQvK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 51ecf63f-5f97-4e2d-88f6-d812169f8c70 X-Archives-Hash: b78671130222c641b94f9943e814a28d --Sig_/t5td4=mT9.PcP/XHlA/XQvK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:02:28 -0400 Richard Yao wrote: > On 11/01/2013 05:18 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:53:53 +0100 > > Peter Stuge wrote: > >=20 > >> To clarify this point; contributing fixes back must always be the > >> least effort of all ways to implement the fix in my own system. > >> Optimize for the (desired) common case. Anything else pushes > >> contributions away. > >=20 > > Version control systems (eg. git) show otherwise. >=20 > While I agree, I do not think this is a very constructive remark. Here > is a link to documentation that shows how to do this. >=20 > https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html#_exa= mple >=20 > It is fairly easy once you know how. Hmm, it perhaps isn't clear from what I wrote, but I meant that to be general; thus the whole set of forking, pulling, pushing, merging, ... I can't go and link all those; or well, maybe I can by just pointing to the documentation but that would be a rather pointless addition. Since a lot of people all across the world use git to contribute; my answer meant to argue that it doesn't push contributions away, but rather make them easier to do and maintain. There isn't a general direct correlation between effort and efficiency; so, sometimes by doing a little bit more effort, one can become way more efficient at doing things. If effort isn't the selling point of contributing, then efficiency will be; it depends on the way you look at it. I do however have to agree there are people that see a version control system as a barrier. There is no one size that fits all... --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/t5td4=mT9.PcP/XHlA/XQvK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSdECCAAoJEJWyH81tNOV9AfAH/R2zu4q8oLLgBka6gNKg27yy 8g9nJMfay9tdzO0YWIammgdczx6qEl4kJSuRAb7xQaku7/DdQEo0Svk0hMzB3kcp 2pSEL24/XRS8B2vjw3/LYRnsMpYOUTAmPg7/LWmvLS9HL01pjsyMcaMq2IVYPj4E tFukcO4fS+7YDKokIMpRDnZt7/S93MOIQZdMwL6/bfFeC5ptlAHylDqatarjdkZT rkt0CfQ1kGg1Olume5dEanI1OjzxY+7rebxnm1qT6yRGrvY+v7G2amTZvOG0w0bc 4VqUT/bHHRmaYBD2wqnRDtTci1y/vyM+1KQWPTb5zRXwpcrPv2PHEfd1JLG6Mkw= =uLFO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/t5td4=mT9.PcP/XHlA/XQvK--