From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662F31387B1 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8708EE094E; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from georges.telenet-ops.be (georges.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.68]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59524E08D9 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by georges.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id kMEP1m00A2khLEN06MEPoC; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 22:14:23 +0100 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 22:13:47 +0100 From: Tom Wijsman To: peter@stuge.se Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] open season on other-dev's packages -- policy change? Message-ID: <20131101221347.36371d29@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20131101194936.27426.qmail@stuge.se> References: <20121123022210.GE4100@comet.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> <50AF84E9.2020608@gentoo.org> <50AF8916.9070004@gentoo.org> <50B1C234.40609@gentoo.org> <50B23CA4.90506@gentoo.org> <20131031170825.23388.qmail@stuge.se> <20131101161842.1257b1f3@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20131101194936.27426.qmail@stuge.se> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/NyqJLvwF=4G+t93_Go.euAx"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: fc8472bf-7a3e-4a35-951d-e9e02417cf07 X-Archives-Hash: 58e22f9809af7b70dfb016cb698dd21b --Sig_/NyqJLvwF=4G+t93_Go.euAx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:49:36 +0100 Peter Stuge wrote: > You're changing the subject. Nobody was talking about really severe > bugs, and those aren't really the common case. Nobody has to for them to be an exception worth mentioning. > Maybe delays don't matter to you, but you can't posit that the same > is true for every other developer. I think the potentially significant > delay matters a lot. Do you have an example? Which actual problem are we trying to fix here? > The whole point is that we cannot assume that maintainer has time. We can, because we have the devaway system. > The scenario is that I have taken a little time right now to fix a > bug and get the fix committed so that I no longer experience said bug. > I'm fixing this bug because it is blocking me in some way. It matters > a whole lot if I have to wait for someone else to unblock me, in > practice that completely demotivates me to contribute back, and I > would simply work around the block. Delay is to be expected with proxy maintenance. Why do you need to wait for the actual commit? If you have it fixed locally, it does no longer bother you; does it? > QA has nothing to do with committing, don't confuse Gentoo policy > with actual meaning of the terms. Testing, repoman and QA matters > are of course part of creating the patch in the first place. It does, the person whom commits has to do the testing / repoman / QA; ensuring the changes are good is the responsibility of the person whom commits and that cannot be transferred to the writer of the patch. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/NyqJLvwF=4G+t93_Go.euAx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSdBmOAAoJEJWyH81tNOV9Z7cH/3pnUxQxPXCA214qQg/JxABS /hOx8VAH2f7F5dbgOMwgw4mjUfKdceko+IwbeNOqRYYVD/Gx2hBa4IInBs5+7GzI FkgGWQQOrXgyZqKhUiTZVwtg3IhYtFGsWjpZ11XFLrmBiaL0HiobV53P9nS1ZOCp qw67ogs/1UySSwamRVO7fYriiwFL5flxyxyEeDXjcFAENR/ZP5iE1PPePaUaRUHn DNNRjdsBMbty7UWCEf0g4oapf65jbIz3P0s3cI3V+2+l18SLyxIarMkAXbTacDDF Gq251t3emYVbV5grD/9c/sMckPtLB9PyzfVX9pR4JfZQvq8y4KpmBvw9wnQx1wM= =GjT/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/NyqJLvwF=4G+t93_Go.euAx--