From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79F61381F3 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:32:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B9D3E0B4B; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gerard.telenet-ops.be (gerard.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.48]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD2CE0B34 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by gerard.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id frYL1m01g2khLEN0HrYLAe; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:32:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:32:03 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: jer@gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 488318] media-video/mpv[luajit] - Keyword request on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, sparc Message-ID: <20131021173203.2e1fc19c@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20131021155034.629be51a@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> References: <20131019190144.7858709c@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> <20131019194329.41f538b0@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <5263ADEC.9000000@gentoo.org> <5263B32F.1080302@gentoo.org> <5263C14E.8020709@gentoo.org> <20131020143056.0f775b7b@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20131021155034.629be51a@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/TpuOt8pD5Ar5eqe9wU9UO+0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 355eac59-185c-486b-88aa-6724ef3ae682 X-Archives-Hash: cf435bb1e7181543434d14c71f6f56b5 --Sig_/TpuOt8pD5Ar5eqe9wU9UO+0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:50:34 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:30:56 +0200 > Tom Wijsman wrote: >=20 > There is no "instead". Why is there no "instead"? > The default policy (did you read the devmanual yet?) Which policy are you referring to? (Did you refer me to anything?) > is to DROP KEYWORDS (and let arch teams re-add them) Which is what I exactly did for the USE flags on most of the arches; and a bug was planned to be filed, such that they can decide on it. > -unless- that is really cumbersome (when you need to drop more and > more keywords as a result). Please do not make additional exceptions, we have enough of them. > Since you don't seem to get why this is. Let me give you an example. >=20 > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Minor Arch User: I want cat-more/pkg with USE=3Dfoo but I can't enable > it. Why is USE=3Dinteresting masked? > Minor Arch Dev: I don't know. Let me look it up. > Minor Arch Dev: Ah, it's in > profiles/default/linux/somearch/package.use.mask: > # Some Package Maintainer (1 Jan 1970) > # dev-libs/interesting not keyworded so disabling, kthxbye > cat-more/pkg interesting > Minor Arch Dev: Apparently it was put there a long time ago. It has no > bug reference and I can't find a ChangeLog entry. Oh wait, it's > mentioned in profiles/ChangeLog-1971 but with the same uninformative > text. Right; bug reference added, I see no other problem here. > Minor Arch User: So what do I need to do? > Minor Arch Dev: Er, you write an entry > in /etc/portage/profile/package.keywords for the dev-libs/interesting > package (make sure to put the ~arch or '**', yeah?), and another entry > in /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask with the same entry as > package.use.mask (but with the sign of the USE flag inverted, right?). Whether you change package.keywords twice or change both once; it doesn't result in a difference in effort, I do not see your point here. > Then when you have successfully re-emerged cat-more/pkg with > USE=3Dinteresting, send me a new bug report so we can start removing the > bitrot from the arch profile and keywording stuff properly. Why file a duplicate bug? > (Several portage configuration explanations and bug hunts later.) For what? > (Minor Arch User exits stage left having gained happy happy support > for "interesting" in his pkg.) > Minor Arch Dev: O, if only the keyword had been dropped at the time, > and two more keywords had been re-added to cat-more/pkg and > dev-libs/interesting at the time, none of this would have been needed. > Mercy! > (Minor Arch Dev drinks the poison and drops to the floor) Two entries will continue to be two entries; so, I do not see where the difference in work comes from. Can you now please explain the exception? > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >=20 >=20 > jer >=20 --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/TpuOt8pD5Ar5eqe9wU9UO+0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSZUj2AAoJEJWyH81tNOV9LdIH/j5MIn9yf9yASGE2llN9Hwqu S8E3qKtzZtTjW+hhB6sRqGzAs9NBZ6fdbvlwhAUEaoPni6L1+mbXsLYCrSsPvVof Y4nqK0lrwPbGiLbQkekZRLHLYj+t3o3lGVfWvJ1FWBhokAf8WIypnmjhK5petO0F 1xATXK9P/PU+vFExJcBhDNfYRHGoaolmc0ApRBYv7BcIdXi5zFxqhOZ37qua29b9 +dxsAgVaTydBk+T1u2UGrHq93m2AdkJH3lxoSvsKF7kEoqBm3WqaMjdt7xrNpURr mrOhg6NwivDPW8fXsOFWB+782CgA8g40yDfoPp2hp5zk4vJM0F2wetADBsFBjBQ= =y2ui -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/TpuOt8pD5Ar5eqe9wU9UO+0--