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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org>
To: jer@gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 488318] media-video/mpv[luajit] - Keyword request on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, sparc
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:32:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131021173203.2e1fc19c@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131021155034.629be51a@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net>

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On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:50:34 +0200
Jeroen Roovers <jer@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 14:30:56 +0200
> Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> There is no "instead".

Why is there no "instead"?

> The default policy (did you read the devmanual yet?)

Which policy are you referring to? (Did you refer me to anything?)

> is to DROP KEYWORDS (and let arch teams re-add them)

Which is what I exactly did for the USE flags on most of the arches;
and a bug was planned to be filed, such that they can decide on it.

> -unless- that is really cumbersome (when you need to drop more and
> more keywords as a result).

Please do not make additional exceptions, we have enough of them.

> Since you don't seem to get why this is. Let me give you an example.
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Minor Arch User: I want cat-more/pkg with USE=foo but I can't enable
> it. Why is USE=interesting masked?
> Minor Arch Dev: I don't know. Let me look it up.
> Minor Arch Dev: Ah, it's in
> profiles/default/linux/somearch/package.use.mask:
> # Some Package Maintainer <some@package.maintainer> (1 Jan 1970)
> # dev-libs/interesting not keyworded so disabling, kthxbye
> cat-more/pkg interesting
> Minor Arch Dev: Apparently it was put there a long time ago. It has no
> bug reference and I can't find a ChangeLog entry. Oh wait, it's
> mentioned in profiles/ChangeLog-1971 but with the same uninformative
> text.

Right; bug reference added, I see no other problem here.

> Minor Arch User: So what do I need to do?
> Minor Arch Dev: Er, you write an entry
> in /etc/portage/profile/package.keywords for the dev-libs/interesting
> package (make sure to put the ~arch or '**', yeah?), and another entry
> in /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask with the same entry as
> package.use.mask (but with the sign of the USE flag inverted, right?).

Whether you change package.keywords twice or change both once; it
doesn't result in a difference in effort, I do not see your point here.

> Then when you have successfully re-emerged cat-more/pkg with
> USE=interesting, send me a new bug report so we can start removing the
> bitrot from the arch profile and keywording stuff properly.

Why file a duplicate bug?

> (Several portage configuration explanations and bug hunts later.)

For what?

> (Minor Arch User exits stage left having gained happy happy support
> for "interesting" in his pkg.)
> Minor Arch Dev: O, if only the keyword had been dropped at the time,
> and two more keywords had been re-added to cat-more/pkg and
> dev-libs/interesting at the time, none of this would have been needed.
> Mercy!
> (Minor Arch Dev drinks the poison and drops to the floor)

Two entries will continue to be two entries; so, I do not see where the
difference in work comes from. Can you now please explain the exception?

> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 
> 
>      jer
> 

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-21 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-488318-23709@http.bugs.gentoo.org/>
     [not found] ` <bug-488318-23709-Ghdn7p7FCs@http.bugs.gentoo.org/>
2013-10-19 17:01   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 488318] media-video/mpv[luajit] - Keyword request on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, sparc Jeroen Roovers
2013-10-19 17:43     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-10-20 10:18       ` Markos Chandras
2013-10-20 10:40         ` Patrick Lauer
2013-10-20 11:41           ` Markos Chandras
2013-10-20 12:30             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-10-21 13:50               ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-10-21 15:32                 ` Tom Wijsman [this message]
2013-10-21 16:31                   ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-10-21 17:03                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-10-20 14:05             ` Patrick Lauer
2013-10-21 13:32             ` Jeroen Roovers
2013-10-21 16:19               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-10-21 19:16               ` Markos Chandras
2013-11-02 21:22                 ` [Bug 304435] Developer Handbook should document how/when to touch arch profiles' files (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 488318] media-video/mpv[luajit] - Keyword request on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, sparc) Tom Wijsman
2013-10-20 12:23         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 488318] media-video/mpv[luajit] - Keyword request on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, sparc Tom Wijsman

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