From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96301381F3 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 04:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D124CE0BB8; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 04:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B09DE0B97 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 04:03:10 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpYyv/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEATocKAsLIRMSDwUlN4gLBsEtjWGCSGEDjX6IDoV+iHCBXoMT X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpYyv/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEATocKAsLIRMSDwUlN4gLBsEtjWGCSGEDjX6IDoV+iHCBXoMT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="21311077" Received: from 69-165-140-175.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([69.165.140.175]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2013 00:03:02 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:03:09 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:03:09 -0400 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 Message-ID: <20130810040309.GB14336@waltdnes.org> References: <1375881254.7753.41.camel@rook> <5202DD20.8050906@gentoo.org> <5203A880.1050306@gentoo.org> <5203B190.80306@gentoo.org> <20130808172340.7d2424af@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <5203C908.1000304@gentoo.org> <20130808185357.4208db83@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <5204376B.60305@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5204376B.60305@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 6476a2e7-87ba-475f-b442-44d625b1f849 X-Archives-Hash: 1facf06780ac069e963004219f487020 On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 08:27:23AM +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote > What makes this situation so difficult is that it's not a single > random package, but one of the bigger desktop environments that > has painted itself into a corner. (Plus an uncooperative upstream, > so all the "blame" gets thrown at the gentoo maintainers from both > sides. Awesome way to destroy crew morale :) ) I don't think you realize what you're asking for. This is a lot more than just a few patches. You're effectively asking for fork of GNOME, just like eudev has forked from udev. GNOME forks already exist. Just off the top of my head... XFCE, Cinnamon, Consort, Mint, Mate, Kate, Unity, etc, etc. If you don't like GNOME, try one of them. -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications