From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708C91381F3 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:16:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB00BE0E5A; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4B58E0E57 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (77-254-91-255.adsl.inetia.pl [77.254.91.255]) (using SSLv3 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 131D233EBEA; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 21:17:04 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: yngwin@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 Message-ID: <20130809211704.0aaa772f@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: References: <5203A880.1050306@gentoo.org> <5203B190.80306@gentoo.org> <20130808172340.7d2424af@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <5203C908.1000304@gentoo.org> <20130808185357.4208db83@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130808202627.4b474471@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130809020303.GA11215@linux1> <1376033807.30224.21.camel@kanae> <5204B6A9.1080309@gentoo.org> <5204D30A.703@gentoo.org> <20130809132622.70e67d5c@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <5204D4DC.30108@gentoo.org> <20130809134525.51585175@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130809155709.2b48ebd5@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.20; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA512; boundary="Sig_/c1mNghWWLUk.5UfcwifqE=L"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: efe2325e-0277-4879-96f2-fdceebaff1a4 X-Archives-Hash: 1ecb9879ee51d3dbb7db057d6e422ca3 --Sig_/c1mNghWWLUk.5UfcwifqE=L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia 2013-08-10, o godz. 03:11:55 Ben de Groot napisa=C5=82(a): > On 9 August 2013 21:57, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 13:45:25 > > Tom Wijsman napisa=C5=82(a): > > > >> On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:39:08 +0800 > >> Patrick Lauer wrote: > >> > >> > On 08/09/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > >> > > On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:31:22 +0800 > >> > > Patrick Lauer wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> You just removed the upgrade path for users. > >> > > > >> > > The upgrade path is to install systemd or to implement openrc > >> > > support. > >> > > > >> > Invalid upgrade path. > >> > > >> > "The upgrade path is to install Fedora" is about as reasonable, and > >> > also not acceptable. > >> > >> Your upgrade path is no longer an upgrade; the other ones are, and as > >> said before, running Gentoo has no implication that OpenRC must be ran. > > > > I can think of at least a few examples where 'upgrade path' actually > > involved replacing one package with another and yet nobody complains > > about that. > > > > This one is *so special* just because we have a few folks which really > > have nothing useful to do and instead spit their systemd hatred on > > gentoo-dev@ and expect others to join their stupid vendetta. >=20 > Please keep your insults off this list. You may want to deny them, but > there are valid reasons why people oppose systemd. It doesn't help to > keep so aggressively pushing it. And what does help? 143-mail thread with people crying out how bad the world goes for them? There are people actually reading this list, and if I'm insulting anyone, those people are insulting the whole Gentoo community by wasting their time and making this list less and less useful. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/c1mNghWWLUk.5UfcwifqE=L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJSBUAwXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ1RUJGMjBGOTk2RkIzQzIyQ0M2RkNBNDBC QUJGMUQ1RkY4QzgxMTBBAAoJELq/HV/4yBEKNkMP/jzxnL5hIV2BgbLjYqY4Z57a W5sfQnJo51SwUYxoufJYUBSoYn9FZ/1+DX5lVWc7ZPj4qiDVU21O43ntgw+U90yE r68AM0w08Yuc46myuvUC5Ncus0sCRoICnUDzssZ4yGV+bY7+rmwRZjhg/RZzPkPb PAsoYDyuwpD/Q52AWJC9txzbOhMPaIEeEFRC3jLNumlKYcRoF/1+JZNBO1VMQWuL JcLbjedX8oGZvY6DhTKqkQzbshneY/qYqiTgE+2d+4lg4sUrMjpWjxWphFrSf3w4 7ajSLn+OxX9RRFLOu9yVnlQtbN4qQtnxzDbCxu4g1qX3Fj2ZQHmUNjqX2EiiDI5/ ZRMQZcL+4v4VMWaJTvf7Egk72/mv3p59pnGgwiWu1FNxB7t8gKwL86Hpix6FdUYv cR6EKpWZxMc0mOVSCbBufjxXg86nkpT1n4LjX9j+jzsl2w1T6550qTxjvYHkSsd6 glrqMeRYNMVvtQ77eDwa2XX/jDguW6dpLCu5oG8lTyrcodzXrMSfcpAUcNwJxLCx M6tdQI8gDDpni1bC9Gfb1ktBu1VttoGLtuoWuieLQl6vkuX3ImZ7G6b4/FVwjQqb 8Tu+2A3JDWLXyMRjqnVKrnhid1MRDgvQA948SmLsNcivpHlquEfu2h9lvgy1Fib1 ct5/Wt0A3/NaUbc/yp5m =5iwk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/c1mNghWWLUk.5UfcwifqE=L--