From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA901381F3 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E39EE0E28; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB775E0DA2 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B12F20C0A; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 15:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:57:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=Gbcbyexsd8CHhsBqmt4zJxa66Bc=; b=d6SFYkqx+Tz84X+k0AoR/CYqmuJN pfjOqYnlXZRQ6YRkL8BP0JCRIkNDbhF3nXSWLCRsZJjyJzSVn5bmbaXkRL6mZnkt j5yFxq38uBZcM38gjJHXEh2ZGfLn8W/XSpInVgy8xDUZmIAipbh+00OfI+1Gl1zC DtKuYUoxwdILU5M= X-Sasl-enc: DkW1CSlCb+oDG4jjSCBcNG/W/k0rHCinorXu3OXIb7NW 1376078254 Received: from localhost (unknown [76.28.172.123]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B095868009E; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 15:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:57:33 -0700 From: Greg KH To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: gregkh@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change Message-ID: <20130809195733.GA7136@kroah.com> References: <20130724191515.16758.qmail@stuge.se> <20130724230911.GA12710@kroah.com> <20130807113721.4a80eba2@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130807224434.GA7359@kroah.com> <20130808043732.268e8950@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130808223245.GB30314@kroah.com> <20130809103458.5e42c611@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130809193042.GE29095@kroah.com> <20130809214643.47762156@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130809214643.47762156@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 6f46ab67-613a-4892-91b1-87ca175b4260 X-Archives-Hash: d479d9b11cba5f2cdb009104e5ab723e On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 09:46:43PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:30:42 -0700 > Greg KH wrote: > > > ... Just read the commits to find out what is resolved, ... > > > > ... Because it's extra work that is pointless. ... > > > > > No classification is done if there is no single command to obtain > > > them. > > > > I don't understand what you mean by this. > > What I'm suggesting is based on the need for a digest; we both know, > that a lot of people are not going to read every single commit to > classify them, if everyone has to do that that causes a lot of double > work which could be easily spared out at the source. Alternatively, > we are in need of a separate resource outside of the kernel infra that > is interested in classifying commits this way, I'm not sure whether > there is anybody doing such thing. There is not, and anyone who has tried to do such a thing quickly gave up as it was a very difficult task. But please, if you feel like you can succeed where others have failed, please do so, I know a lot of people would like someone to do this type of work for them. > Undoubtedly you heard thoughts similar to the above many times before; > but I'm new to this train of thoughts, so I'm unaware of those debates. Yes, it comes up every few months by people who are just suddenly thinking of it. Please give us some kind of credit, we have been dealing with this issue for well over a decade, and have come to the existing state based on our experience and knowledge of what works best for us, and hopefully, the rest of the community. thanks, greg k-h