From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82C61381F3 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 15:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11D8EE0D4C; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 15:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from juliette.telenet-ops.be (juliette.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.74]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0403EE0AEC for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2013 15:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TOMWIJ-GENTOO ([94.226.55.127]) by juliette.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id AfGU1m00J2khLEN06fGUye; Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:16:28 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 17:12:45 +0200 From: Tom Wijsman To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: alonbl@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 Message-ID: <20130809171245.0b62dffd@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: References: <5203A880.1050306@gentoo.org> <5203B190.80306@gentoo.org> <20130808172340.7d2424af@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <5203C908.1000304@gentoo.org> <20130808185357.4208db83@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130808202627.4b474471@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130809020303.GA11215@linux1> <1376033807.30224.21.camel@kanae> <5204B6A9.1080309@gentoo.org> <5204D30A.703@gentoo.org> <52050053.5090209@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.20; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/JdpKZntn=DrshW4826wvN_3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: b4cdc97e-4828-4342-97de-c5c53a567760 X-Archives-Hash: cea10aac8d5a8e02df7bea3b88120869 --Sig_/JdpKZntn=DrshW4826wvN_3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 17:50:24 +0300 Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > So users will have gnome working but not any other component? How can > this a good service for users? Just like we can't ensure that everything builds with LLVM doesn't mean we shouldn't support packages that only build with GCC, neither does it mean we can't support packages that only build with LLVM; we do our best to aim them to build with both as a means of good service to our users, but if it doesn't build for one of the other there's not much we can do about that other than trying to fix. The same applies to build systems, documentation generation, the compression used and so on.... If we didn't support alternatives, we would only have stuff in the tree that solely supports GCC, plain Makefiles and so on; and anything that only works with LLVM, CMake and so on would never be a part. This isn't the Gentoo that I want to pursue; I agree that an alternative not being supported isn't a good service for "all" users, but for "some" users it is a good alternative. Let's not put those users in the dark. The support for systemd is increasing; the support for other components looks good to most of us, and those that don't work will likely work in the near future except for those that have a hard dependency on OpenRC. I'm willing to belief that the small set of software that has that kind of hard dependency can also be made supported or simply replaced. Good service in a meta distro is making alternative choices available. --=20 With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D --Sig_/JdpKZntn=DrshW4826wvN_3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSBQbtAAoJEJWyH81tNOV9CSAH/2NJsFONM5bMahpf1+kvUU8T E3X0hAsw7ertVK9o4wRuMc4iHtqIBCvXy2PA9O2VgifE5GAvgwTj6xLlrUHfIZms EVSayoJy0obC7RID5VgWIrUyRPOMW6u8/qxBAaAGrp4fIS6vHcmj1npCcqbbccAH M2Im43HMHYUWzYNSMFp7v9dIhz2TwIHkZMsHQ3TZRIovGY125H8ypHbJmwSEM+29 8JqVyBIC6ucCUNjDKS88FRFdPibJFx/dnZRdz1dnw87QnjZ6OJTQO6KR3gUEs9uv Ok7jsrCY3SgNtv8gK3/pS6HXB4oz2w+PIVmDIhJA5Mkll7G0/yb6jU9cxdwwPcY= =L/og -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/JdpKZntn=DrshW4826wvN_3--