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From: "Steven J. Long" <slong@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Multiple implementations shouldn't block Gentoo's progress. Stabilize package combinations?
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 07:42:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130809064224.GA8940@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52048088.8020400@gentoo.org>

On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 08:39:20AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> I've always disliked unnecessary profiles, a lot, but this whole 
> selecting of init plus packages supporting it plus the /usr-move issue 
> the systemd maintainers are bundling together with it by forcing the 
> unstandard systemd installation to /usr...
> imho, would be good enough reason for a one or two more sub profiles
> 
> What if eg. profiles/targets/desktop would have sub directory 

> profiles/targets/desktop/systemd:
>  which would have a 'parent' of '..'
>  with USE="-consolekit systemd" and [systemd-specific settings]

Yeah, the changes seem to warrant a sub-profile.

> profiles/targets/desktop/gnome:
>  with 'parent' of '..' and '../../systemd' 

Should that latter be '../systemd' ?

> that mask the core packages GNOME 3.x that will pull in systemd 
> unconditionally, and profiles/targets/desktop/systemd unmasking those 
> packages

Er doesn't it make more sense for the gnome sub-profile to unmask what it
needs? Or does gnome apply to 2 and 3 both?

It would seem to make sense if the packages are unmasked conditionally
in the parent, or the linux profile, and then unmasked in the profiles
that need them. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding.

> (I hope that was readable, it seems a lot simpler in my head ;-)

With a bit of separation, yeah ;) Makes sense as an overall approach.

regards,
igli
-- 
#friendly-coders -- We're friendly, but we're not /that/ friendly ;-)


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-09  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 192+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-07 12:45 [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 Michael Weber
2013-08-07 13:14 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2013-08-07 13:56   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-07 15:22     ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-07 23:49   ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-08  2:51     ` Alex Alexander
2013-08-08  9:29     ` hasufell
2013-08-08  9:43       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 11:19         ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 11:28           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 10:05       ` Michał Górny
2013-08-08 10:30         ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-08 14:01     ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-08-08 14:10       ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 14:30         ` Fabio Erculiani
2013-08-08 14:45         ` Michał Górny
2013-08-08 14:17       ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-08 14:34         ` Ben Kohler
2013-08-08 14:56           ` hasufell
2013-08-08 15:16             ` Damien Levac
2013-08-08 15:40               ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-08-08 15:49                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 15:56                 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 16:02                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 16:13                   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 16:20                     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-08-08 16:24                       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 16:58                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-08-09 13:10                 ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-08 15:23             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 16:36               ` hasufell
2013-08-08 16:48                 ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 16:52                   ` hasufell
2013-08-08 17:09                     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 17:57                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 16:53                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 17:41                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 17:57                     ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 18:08                       ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-08 18:23                         ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 18:47                           ` Multiple implementations shouldn't block Gentoo's progress. Stabilize package combinations? (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8) Tom Wijsman
     [not found]                             ` < CAOazyz2R+3TANLkeoXhP0LgLS+rOZwjPdCYVdC82DTG1nbri-w@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-08 18:57                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 19:09                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 19:11                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09  1:05                                 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Multiple implementations shouldn't block Gentoo's progress. Stabilize package combinations? Zac Medico
2013-08-09  1:18                                   ` Dustin C. Hatch
2013-08-09  5:39                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09  6:42                                     ` Steven J. Long [this message]
2013-08-09  6:51                                       ` [gentoo-dev] [typo] Re: Re: Multiple implementations shouldn't block Gentoo's progress Steven J. Long
2013-08-09  7:19                                         ` William Hubbs
2013-08-09  7:26                                           ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 10:50                                             ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-10 18:42                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-08-11  1:53                                                 ` Rich Freeman
     [not found]                                             ` < CAGfcS_=zyeX8Whr8U4w4s3ouSbUoTm=hF95t3rd0q=wt60eZcQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                               ` < 20130810184211.GA1500@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk>
2013-08-11  2:04                                                 ` Duncan
2013-08-09  8:46                                     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Multiple implementations shouldn't block Gentoo's progress. Stabilize package combinations? Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09  8:58                                       ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09  9:53                                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 18:58                           ` [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 Samuli Suominen
2013-08-08 19:01                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 18:26                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 18:38                         ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-08 19:03                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 19:02                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 19:22                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09  2:03                         ` William Hubbs
2013-08-09  7:36                           ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2013-08-09  9:30                             ` hasufell
2013-08-09 10:27                               ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-09 11:31                                 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-09 11:26                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 11:39                                     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-09 11:38                                       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-09 12:14                                         ` vivo75
2013-08-09 13:54                                           ` Michał Górny
2013-08-09 16:38                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-10 19:57                                             ` vivo75
2013-08-09 16:17                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-09 20:43                                             ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 11:45                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 13:57                                         ` Michał Górny
2013-08-09 19:11                                           ` Ben de Groot
2013-08-09 19:15                                             ` Matt Turner
2013-08-09 19:17                                             ` Michał Górny
2013-08-09 20:32                                             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 23:32                                               ` Mike Auty
2013-08-10  0:03                                                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 10:51                                         ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-10 10:59                                           ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-10 11:12                                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-10 11:38                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 11:37                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-08-09 11:58                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 10:50                                     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-10 11:40                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-08-09 12:28                                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-09 14:22                                     ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-09 14:44                                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-08-09 14:50                                         ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-09 14:51                                           ` Arun Raghavan
2013-08-09 14:57                                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-08-09 15:02                                             ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-09 15:25                                             ` hasufell
2013-08-09 16:12                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 15:12                                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 11:04                                             ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-10 11:42                                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 11:51                                                 ` Michael Weber
2013-08-10 16:50                                                   ` William Hubbs
2013-08-09 16:43                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-09 14:59                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 11:03                                         ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-10 11:52                                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 17:45                                       ` William Hubbs
2013-08-10 10:55                                     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-10 11:12                                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-10 11:59                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 12:16                                         ` Ben Kohler
2013-08-09 13:44                                   ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 12:36                                 ` hasufell
2013-08-09 13:13                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10 19:34                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2013-08-10 19:49                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-23 13:27                                         ` Steven J. Long
2013-08-23 15:54                                           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 13:49                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 14:40                                     ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-09 15:42                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 16:35                                       ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 17:06                                     ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09 10:42                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-09-11  9:41                             ` Olav Vitters
2013-09-11 11:15                               ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08 18:12                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09  0:27                   ` Patrick Lauer
2013-08-09  3:08                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-09  9:16                     ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 14:57                       ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-09 15:47                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-10  4:03                     ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-10  6:54                       ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-08 15:26             ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 16:05               ` Alex Xu
2013-08-08 16:09                 ` William Hubbs
     [not found]   ` < 5202DD20.8050906@gentoo.org>
     [not found]     ` < CAMUzOag6DkLLn7OpBRhkHsRGFWOjvMv_WDrT+cm0S-bewT=JhQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-08  6:21       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-08-08  6:26         ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-08  7:05         ` KDE/semantic-desktop, was: " Andreas K. Huettel
2013-08-08 14:59           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: KDE/semantic-desktop Martin Vaeth
2013-08-08 17:44             ` Martin Vaeth
2013-08-08 17:52               ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-08 18:15                 ` Chris Reffett
2013-08-08  9:45         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 hasufell
2013-08-08 11:23           ` Rich Freeman
     [not found]   ` < pan$a65ab$e0ddc4a9$415605ad$324469f5@cox.net>
     [not found]     ` <52033A27.2070103@sporkbox.us >
2013-08-08  8:27       ` Duncan
     [not found]   ` < 52033A27.2070103@sporkbox.us>
     [not found]     ` <pan$f2635$5ee40939$18f8a55$7afd54a5@cox.net >
2013-08-08  8:33       ` Duncan
2013-08-07 15:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2013-08-08  6:19   ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-08 15:13     ` William Hubbs
2013-08-08  9:39 ` Ben de Groot
2013-08-08  9:49   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-08 10:38   ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-08 20:40     ` Mike Auty
2013-08-08 21:06       ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-09  0:17         ` Mike Auty
2013-08-09  0:26         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-08-09  6:24           ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-09  9:26             ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-08-09  9:51               ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-09 10:22                 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-08-09 10:35                   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-11  5:41                 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-11  7:31                   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-11  7:51                     ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-11 11:14                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-11  8:02                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-08 23:19       ` Greg KH
2013-08-09  0:26         ` Mike Auty
2013-08-09  9:35           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-09 22:46             ` Mike Auty
2013-08-10 22:42           ` Wulf C. Krueger
2013-08-10 23:10             ` Mike Auty
2013-08-10 23:45               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-11  1:15                 ` Mike Auty
2013-08-11  1:42                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-08-11  0:01               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-08-11 13:41         ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-11 14:03       ` Walter Dnes
2013-08-09  0:25 ` Michael Weber
2013-08-09  5:29   ` Samuli Suominen
2013-08-09  6:28     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-09  6:27   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-08-10 19:57 ` Roy Bamford

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