From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BEC1381F3 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A677E0CBD; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mo-p04-ob.rzone.de (mo-p04-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43429E0CB3 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:05:47 +0000 (UTC) X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo04 X-RZG-AUTH: :I3kQYkG6f/ML/Lb0bAYFCBt+SpICkd7E+UrA1ycmip9RDA+sU5X2JNWL77ksqskFgY3waQ== Received: from porto.localnet (static.vdc.vn [113.161.0.129]) by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 31.37 SBL|AUTH) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPA id w04f11p786lMT5 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:05:38 +0200 (CEST) From: "Andreas K. Huettel" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: KDE/semantic-desktop, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 09:05:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.8.13-gentoo; KDE/4.10.97; x86_64; ; ) References: <5202416C.5@gentoo.org> < CAMUzOag6DkLLn7OpBRhkHsRGFWOjvMv_WDrT+cm0S-bewT=JhQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart39314821.uqj2QKVIrz"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201308080905.52472.dilfridge@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 4226afc2-026b-4ce7-ad3a-d367bf83dd58 X-Archives-Hash: 77bdce3cf076f61295bf45a7f8f62b81 --nextPart39314821.uqj2QKVIrz Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Donnerstag, 8. August 2013, 08:21:47 schrieb Duncan: > ... >=20 > [Those uninterested in gentoo/kde can stop reading here, as the rest of > the post is a complaint about that project not taking the same position.] >=20 > Gentoo/kde users would be so lucky! >=20 > As a gentoo/kde-er, I *WISH* the gentoo/kde team was as similarly willing > to continue support for the options kde upstream *ARE* still providing -- > kde4 with the semantic-desktop options turned off. =20 Let me quote a user comment from my blog [who was in the beginning very muc= h=20 concerned about this decision as well]: "I decided it might be wise to rebuild +semantic-desktop globally, to see f= or=20 myself what would actually happen. After 8 hours of compiling (Atom N270) t= he=20 answer is about 10 additional megs of ram at idle and about 2 extra seconds= to=20 boot. There is no performance penalty to load gwenview or dolphin. kdelibs= =20 took an additional 10 minutes to compile (2h 15 vs 2h 5); the flag system w= ide=20 should not increase my compile times by more than a percentage point or two= =2E=20 Given that the hit is extremely minimal: I do apologise for getting=20 prematurely butthurt, and I welcome our new semantic overlords." It's simply a matter of priorities. If the resulting damage is that minimal= ,=20 it is not worth the effort. (I mean, it's not as if you'd have to switch to a totally different init=20 system or such. :) =2D-=20 Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer (council, kde) dilfridge@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ --nextPart39314821.uqj2QKVIrz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABCgAGBQJSA0NKAAoJEJS/30SErRQvaqQP/3tUlTLCPik9o9RyeNxc09o1 B9dlnG3bQxoGeeKscPlPrBf0+S9JF6DB+vZrwLz1sBrR6h4UOHRz8xkl4eJr8Y/I K8ICKJmVIBDamqYMCIVDD2+AjCDxSuI8u1zX1Z/ZNEqOQlBLsCw0GuXS8b9cGS38 SL5ia+vXj7la5PuGvEfEtEpfndcghLIiqqI5ga6NXg3duRJcmtcr+D+oSfa9nivY T6tDQkhUBtnRtgjkcYoo4qC6/tbAlI5ZJ70Ha2mzz154PoAPvdtXom+2rzJ1ZwX1 e2X//+FKLRNLHeErU0WKQkkHIZ4DtHvBVr+jTsFAt5sAzo+0sLwVOj/9Y+hrWtDI A2SQ+zhHllspZxX3YeEqELMWflSCumk0e0cN0clZRIo82Qlezc9WY8/F+M/HQsZj D5o+b1jm+FIVTfHR7PY4QsVinAqylsUOzCb0KAHtKbFnGF/J0Ebffqsy5il7guAb zqOOpMWbKvom5mVmQf6M07uPBzhghXc3tVIf/Rjc85WNLHKC3iCR2uJsn8wAVg3p 18JM8xd7R5+n9/EAiB1nk7x3NG3IRYKfG+chn3nEqv4rIXAQ9sg/RTTgmFN3Hy0T eSxbpDfy2JJrs8PC0eRvWbzNTPFl0CPGeaoBZXy+lF4p+4cTDB7wxAGkmQJ3gb/q eBIMte4K1acEuBpr7qdu =/XL+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart39314821.uqj2QKVIrz--